Discussion of the implementations of VIRTIO specification
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From: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: stratos-dev@op-lists.linaro.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Matt Spencer <Matt.Spencer@arm.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>,
	Peter Hilber <peter.hilber@opensynergy.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Puck Meerburg <puck@puckipedia.com>,
	Mikhail Golubev <Mikhail.Golubev@opensynergy.com>,
	Andriy Tryshnivskyy <andriy.tryshnivskyy@opensynergy.com>,
	Vasyl Vavrychuk <vasyl.vavrychuk@opensynergy.com>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [Stratos-dev] Re: [virtio-dev] Next VirtIO device for Project Stratos?
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2022 07:47:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkrtc5az.fsf@alyssa.is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v8q1keul.fsf@linaro.org>

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Alex Bennée via Stratos-dev <stratos-dev@op-lists.linaro.org> writes:

> Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is> writes:
>
>> As I understand it, virtio-wayland is effectively deprecated in favour
>> of sending Wayland messages over cross-domain virtio-gpu contexts.  It's
>> possible to do this now with an upstream kernel, whereas virtio-wayland
>> always required a custom driver in the Chromium kernel.
>
> That's good to know. I guess there is nothing that prevents the final
> display of virtual GPUs from multiple guests being mapped onto the
> final presentation? The automotive use case seems to treat each
> individual VM with a UI as presenting a surface which the final console
> manager composites up together depending on safety rules to display to
> the user.

Well, in the Wayland use case, AIUI virtio-gpu is just a transport for
the Wayland protocol + shared memory resources.  The simplest case is
just sending shared CPU memory buffers around (wl_shm), so there's not
really any GPU involved in anything but name.  Alternatively, it's
possible to use dma-bufs, and graphics acceleration through the
virtio-gpu devices, and yes, when doing that it's still possible for the
host Wayland compositor to combine everything into one presentation — I
think they're all just dma-bufs to it.

Does that make sense?  I'm also no expert on this but hopefully I'm not
too far off.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-06  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-31  8:07 [virtio-comment] Next VirtIO device for Project Stratos? Alex Bennée
     [not found] ` <80aace95-6c39-c7b9-61ba-70d60bcd08b2@quicinc.com>
     [not found]   ` <c642058f36321cb7dfdfaa4664f5323841b65450.camel@sipsolutions.net>
     [not found]     ` <a3856ec8-90d6-df19-2b5f-bc42700b09db@quicinc.com>
2022-06-08 12:28       ` [virtio-comment] Re: [Stratos-dev] " Alex Bennée
2022-09-03  7:43 ` [virtio-dev] " Alyssa Ross
2022-09-05 15:22   ` [virtio-comment] " Alex Bennée
2022-09-06  7:47     ` Alyssa Ross [this message]
2022-09-05 20:27   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-09-06 17:33     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-09-06 18:12       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-09-07 14:09         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-09-07 17:15           ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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