From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>, Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, virtio@lists.oasis-open.org,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
Subject: [virtio] Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] [PATCH] virtio: clarify feature negotiation
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 15:57:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ilu7kgmd.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220124132837-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On Mon, Jan 24 2022, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> It's true. However, that's a generic rule and specific devices
> can differ. and if you look at specific instances, you will
> see that they typically require that the feature is negotiated.
> For example:
>
> \item If the VIRTIO_BLK_F_BLK_SIZE feature is negotiated,
> \field{blk_size} can be read to determine the optimal sector size
> for the driver to use.
>
> so a driver reading blk_size before FEATURES_OK is actually using
> an undocumented aspect of the behaviour.
>
> compare this to MTU:
>
> \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU(3)] Device maximum MTU reporting is supported. If
> offered by the device, device advises driver about the value of
> its maximum MTU. If negotiated, the driver uses \field{mtu} as
> the maximum MTU value.
>
> from which it's clear that it can be read even if not
> negotiated.
>
> So from that point of view, we are actually relaxing the requirements,
> and yes we'll need to carefully go over each instance of
> "offered".
> I thought I did, but now I did a quick grep again and I found instances
> in virtio-iommu.tex and virtio-gpio.tex
> Both of these are new, so I think we can just fix them to "negotiated".
Considering this, should we actually add any requirements as to when
fields are valid? The device may present a value that is always valid if
it offers the corresponding feature, or that value may change depending
on what is actually negotiated by the driver. Maybe a statement that the
actual validity of a field's value before negotiation is device type
dependant?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-25 14:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-14 22:50 [virtio-dev] [PATCH] virtio: clarify feature negotiation Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-17 15:39 ` Cornelia Huck
2022-01-17 22:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-19 12:23 ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-19 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-19 17:50 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-19 23:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-20 12:39 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-20 15:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-20 15:24 ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-19 12:23 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Halil Pasic
2022-01-19 16:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-20 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-20 16:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-21 2:38 ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-21 16:05 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-24 16:40 ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-24 21:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-25 14:57 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2022-01-25 18:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-26 9:27 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-04-07 14:28 ` Cornelia Huck
2022-04-07 14:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-26 15:10 ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-25 15:22 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-26 14:14 ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-21 3:17 ` Halil Pasic
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