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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, mst@redhat.com,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com
Cc: parav@nvidia.com, shahafs@nvidia.com, oren@nvidia.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com, Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] Add virtio Admin virtqueue
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2022 14:09:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tudgw0yi.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220203075716.11684-2-mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>

On Thu, Feb 03 2022, Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com> wrote:

> In one of the many use cases a user wants to manipulate features and
> configuration of the virtio devices regardless of the device type
> (net/block/console). Some of this configuration is generic enough. i.e
> Number of MSI-X vectors of a virtio PCI VF device. There is a need to do
> such features query and manipulation by its parent PCI PF.
>
> Currently virtio specification defines control virtqueue to manipulate
> features and configuration of the device it operates on. However,
> control virtqueue commands are device type specific, which makes it very
> difficult to extend for device agnostic commands.
>
> To support this requirement in elegant way, this patch introduces a new
> admin virtqueue interface. Admin virtqueue is proposed as one of the
> interfaces to issue admin commands that have the same command format for
> all type of virtio devices.
>
> Manipulate features via admin virtqueue is asynchronous, scalable, easy
> to extend and doesn't require additional and expensive on-die resources
> to be allocated for every new feature that will be added in the future.
>
> Subsequent patches make use of this admin virtqueue.
>
> Reviewed-by: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
> Signed-off-by: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
> ---
>  admin.tex       | 94 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  conformance.tex |  1 +
>  content.tex     |  8 +++--
>  3 files changed, 101 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 admin.tex
>
> diff --git a/admin.tex b/admin.tex
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000..fa9c993
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/admin.tex
> @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@

[some wording only, have not yet thought about the rest]

> +\section{Admin Virtqueues}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Admin Virtqueues}
> +
> +Admin virtqueue is one of the management interface that used to send administrative

"An admin virtqueue is a management interface of a device that can be used..."

> +commands to manipulate various features of the device and/or to manipulate
> +various features, if possible, of another device within the same group (e.g. PCI VFs

Maybe add

"Which devices are actually considered a group is transport specific."

?

> +of a parent PCI PF device are grouped together. These devices can be optionally
> +managed by its parent PCI PF using its admin virtqueue.).

I would move the content in the brackets to a separate paragraph. Maybe

"An example of a group is PCI virtual functions (VFs) being grouped
together with their parent PCI physical function (PF). These VFs can be
optionally managed by their parent PF using its admin virtqueue."

> +
> +An admin virtqueue exists for a certain device if VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ is
> +negotiated. The index of the admin virtqueue exposed by the device in a

s/exposed/is exposed/

> +transport specific manner.
> +
> +When VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ is negotiated with the device, driver will send all admin commands
> +through the admin virtqueue.

That sounds a bit like the driver might use an alternative interface for
the admin commands as well? What about

"If VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ has been negotiated, the driver used the admin
virtqueue to send admin commands."


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-03 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-03  7:57 [PATCH v3 0/4] VIRTIO: Provision maximum MSI-X vectors for a VF Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] Add virtio Admin virtqueue Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03 13:09   ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2022-02-07 10:14     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-07 10:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-07 11:51         ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 14:34           ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-07 15:08             ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 16:19               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-07 10:39   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-07 14:58     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-07 16:18       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08  0:41         ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-08  6:45           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08  8:34             ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-08 13:08               ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 13:20                 ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 14:04               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08  6:25     ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08  6:42       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08  7:04         ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 13:19           ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 13:32             ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 13:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 14:59                 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 15:11                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:18                     ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 15:28                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:33                       ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:36                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:26                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:32                     ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 15:35                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:37                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:48                         ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 21:02                           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:06                 ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:39                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 18:52                     ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 21:00                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] Add miscellaneous configuration structure for PCI Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] Add device management facility Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 4/4] Add support for MSI-X vectors configuration for PCI VFs Max Gurtovoy

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