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From: Alexander Gordeev <alexander.gordeev@opensynergy.com>
To: "Bartłomiej Grzesik" <bag@semihalf.com>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>
Cc: "Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	"Keiichi Watanabe" <keiichiw@chromium.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Marcin Wojtas" <mwojtas@google.com>,
	"Matti Möll" <Matti.Moell@opensynergy.com>,
	"Andrew Gazizov" <andrew.gazizov@opensynergy.com>,
	"Enrico Granata" <egranata@google.com>,
	"Gustavo Padovan" <gustavo.padovan@collabora.com>,
	"Peter Griffin" <peter.griffin@linaro.org>,
	"Tomasz Figa" <tfiga@chromium.org>,
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	hmazur@google.com, mikrawczyk@google.com
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [RFC PATCH v6] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 18:00:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d83a8f62-a2c8-8f8d-46ed-0d747daca4d3@opensynergy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALgKJBqKWng508cB_F_uD2fy9EAvQ36rYR3fRb57sFd3ihpUFw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bartłomiej,

On 21.04.23 13:49, Bartłomiej Grzesik wrote:
> +CC chromeos-arc-video-eng team that also works on virtio-video
>
> Hi everyone!
>
>  From the experience of working on virtio-video I can definitely agree
> with Alex Courbot, that moving to virtio-v4l2 will be a great move.
> This move will not only simply things a lot but also allow us things like
> vhost-net like implementation for some devices (however this is
> thinking way ahead and linux only).
>
> One added benefit of this move that I'd like to point out now, that
> probably
> haven't been mentioned before, is moving to asynchronous resource queue
> call. Previously `VIRTIO_VIDEO_CMD_RESOURCE_QUEUE` have been
> synchronous and caused one hard to debug bug caused by this flawed
> design. During the command execution the virtio queue descriptors are
> blocked, potentially leading to dead locking the device. The implementation
> of virtio-v4l2 (even as is - btw nice work Alex!) eliminates this issue
> by moving to asynchronous response of the resource queue (VIDIOC_QBUF).

Thanks for your valuable feedback! Could you please share some details
about the bug? That would be very helpful. I'm working on the next
version of the virtio-video draft, so I can change it there. I like the
idea to use V4L2 as a reference, so we should probably do it like it is
done there, only simpler. Still it would be interesting to know the
details, because we didn't have issues with the current design.

> I also agree that in this case v4l2 would only be a protocol similar to how
> virtio-video was, that has the benefit of allowing very simple guest
> drivers.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-04-26 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-08  7:23 [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH v6] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification Alexandre Courbot
2022-12-08 15:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2022-12-27  5:38   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-11  8:45     ` Cornelia Huck
2023-01-12  6:32       ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-12 15:23         ` Cornelia Huck
2022-12-19 16:59 ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Gordeev
2022-12-20  9:51   ` Cornelia Huck
2022-12-20 10:35     ` Alexander Gordeev
2022-12-20 17:39       ` Cornelia Huck
2022-12-21 14:56         ` Alexander Gordeev
2022-12-27  7:31   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-11 18:42     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-01-11 20:13       ` Alex Bennée
2023-01-12  6:40         ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-12  6:39       ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-18 23:06         ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-02-06 14:12           ` Cornelia Huck
2023-02-07  6:16             ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-02-07 13:59               ` Cornelia Huck
2023-03-10 10:50                 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-03-10 13:19                   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-03-10 14:20                     ` Cornelia Huck
2023-03-14  5:06                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-03-16 10:12                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-03-17  7:24                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-17 12:51                             ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-17 14:43                               ` Cornelia Huck
2023-04-19  7:39                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-19 21:34                                   ` Enrico Granata
2023-04-21 14:48                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-21  4:02                                   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-21 16:01                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-24  7:52                                       ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-25 16:04                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2023-04-26  6:29                                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-27 14:10                                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-28  4:02                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-28  8:54                                               ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-02  1:07                                                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-05-02 11:12                                                   ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-26  5:52                                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-27 14:20                                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-28  3:22                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-28  8:22                                               ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-26 15:52                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-27 13:23                                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-27 15:12                                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-28  3:24                                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-28  8:31                                             ` Alexander Gordeev
     [not found]                                     ` <CALgKJBqKWng508cB_F_uD2fy9EAvQ36rYR3fRb57sFd3ihpUFw@mail.gmail.com>
2023-04-26 16:00                                       ` Alexander Gordeev [this message]
2023-04-27 10:13                                         ` Bartłomiej Grzesik
2023-04-27 14:34                                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-28  3:22                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-28  7:57                                               ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-21  4:02                               ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-26 15:11                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-27 13:16                                   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-28  7:47                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-03 14:04                                       ` Cornelia Huck
2023-05-03 15:11                                         ` Alex Bennée
2023-05-03 15:53                                           ` Cornelia Huck
2023-05-05  9:57                                             ` Alexander Gordeev
     [not found]                                               ` <168329085253.1880445.14002473591422425775@Monstersaurus>
2023-05-05 15:55                                                 ` Alex Bennée
2023-05-16 12:57                                                   ` Alexander Gordeev
     [not found]                                                   ` <20230506081229.GA8114@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>
     [not found]                                                     ` <20230506081633.GB8114@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>
2023-05-08  8:00                                                       ` [virtio-dev] Re: [libcamera-devel] " Alexandre Courbot
2023-05-16 13:50                                                       ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-17  3:58                                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2023-05-05 12:28                                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-05 11:54                                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-08  4:55                                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-05-11  8:50                                             ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-11  9:00                                               ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-12  4:15                                                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-05-17  7:35                                                   ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-12  4:09                                               ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-05-16 14:53                                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-17 16:28                                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2023-05-18  6:29                                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-18 19:35                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-17 11:04                                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-03-27 13:00                         ` Albert Esteve
2023-04-15  5:58                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-17 12:56                             ` Cornelia Huck
2023-04-17 13:13                               ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-17 13:22                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-02-07 11:11             ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-02-07  6:51           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-02-07 10:57             ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-01-11 17:04 ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-01-12  6:32   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-12 22:24     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-01-11 18:45 ` Alexander Gordeev

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