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From: Alexander Gordeev <alexander.gordeev@opensynergy.com>
To: "Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	"Keiichi Watanabe" <keiichiw@chromium.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: "Marcin Wojtas" <mwojtas@google.com>,
	"Matti Möll" <Matti.Moell@opensynergy.com>,
	"Andrew Gazizov" <andrew.gazizov@opensynergy.com>,
	"Enrico Granata" <egranata@google.com>,
	"Gustavo Padovan" <gustavo.padovan@collabora.com>,
	"Peter Griffin" <peter.griffin@linaro.org>,
	"Bartłomiej Grzesik" <bag@semihalf.com>,
	"Tomasz Figa" <tfiga@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [RFC PATCH v6] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 11:35:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <de2f7a27-9f2a-0e36-d57c-3ddaa86b0a26@opensynergy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k02mz9le.fsf@redhat.com>

Hello Cornelia,

On 20.12.22 10:51, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 19 2022, Alexander Gordeev <alexander.gordeev@opensynergy.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Alexandre,
>>
>> Thanks for the update. Please check my comments below.
>> I'm new to the virtio video spec development, so I may lack some
>> historic perspective. I would gladly appreciate pointing me to some
>> older emails explaining decisions, that I might not understand. I hope
>> to read through all of them later. Overall I have a lot of experience in
>> the video domain and in virtio video device development in Opsy, so I
>> hope, that my comments are relevant and useful.
> Thank you for commenting! I know the virtio spec, but I'm not familiar
> with the video part, so your feedback is highly appreciated :)
>
> Prior discussions should be in the virtio-dev archives; at least v3
> (https://ddec1-0-en-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2flists.oasis%2dopen.org%2farchives%2fvirtio%2ddev%2f202002%2fmsg00002.html&umid=ce4587fa-5f66-4a08-be71-c7fad0355b4c&auth=53c7c7de28b92dfd96e93d9dd61a23e634d2fbec-8ac7749933f48b779f5d37c4630ba2d37c15b0eb)
> and v4
> (https://ddec1-0-en-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2flists.oasis%2dopen.org%2farchives%2fvirtio%2ddev%2f202006%2fmsg00072.html&umid=ce4587fa-5f66-4a08-be71-c7fad0355b4c&auth=53c7c7de28b92dfd96e93d9dd61a23e634d2fbec-f5d8196d57b85625d3a8262d32ad87a88d5d6bee)
> seem to have gotten some feedback.
>
> [A note to Alexandre: You'll want to send your patches to virtio-comment
> as well as virtio-dev; virtio-comment is for commenting on the spec
> including proposing updates, while virtio-dev is for discussing virtio
> development. Yes, I know that we haven't always been strict about that
> in the past.]

Thank you for the references! I'll take some time to read these
discussions through.


>> On 08.12.22 08:23, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> (...)
>
>>> +\subsubsection{Image formats}\label{sec:Device Types / Video Device / Supported formats / Image formats}
>>> +
>>> +The fourcc code of each supported image format is given, as well as its
>>> +number of planes, physical buffers, and eventual subsampling.
>>> +
>>> +\begin{description}
>>> +\item[\field{RGB3}]
>>> +one RGB plane where each component takes one byte, i.e.~3 bytes per
>>> +pixel.
>>> +\item[\field{NV12}]
>>> +one Y plane followed by interleaved U and V data, in a single buffer.
>>> +4:2:0 subsampling.
>>> +\item[\field{NV12}]
>>> +same as \field{NV12} but using two separate buffers for the Y and UV
>>> +planes.
>> s/NV12/NM12/ ?
>>
>>
>>> +\item[\field{YU12}]
>>> +one Y plane followed by one Cb plane, followed by one Cr plane, in a
>>> +single buffer. 4:2:0 subsampling.
>>> +\item[\field{YM12}]
>>> +same as \field{YU12} but using three separate buffers for the Y, U and V
>>> +planes.
>>> +\end{description}
>> This looks like V4L2 formats. Maybe add a V4L2 reference? At least the
>> V4L2 documentation has a nice description of exact plane layouts.
>> Otherwise it would be nice to have these layouts in the spec IMO.
> Ah, so this is all V4L2? It looks like we really want to refer to the
> existing V4L2 headers (like we already do for FUSE in the virtiofs
> case). Are those headers sufficient to specify the formats, or do we
> need anything else?
Yes, these fourcc code seem to come from V4L2:
https://docs.kernel.org/userspace-api/media/v4l/pixfmt-yuv-planar.html
I also think we want to have a reference to V4L2 in the spec here, because:
1. V4L2 docs have the nice component/plane layouts that help convert or
match these format definitions with other APIs.
2. These fourcc codes are not used anywhere else except in V4L2. I think
this is the only place, that distinguishes coontiguous and non
contiguous buffers with a fourcc code. So without a reference this may
look quite weird. With a reference this looks logical, because I guess
any virtio video driver for a Linux guest would naturally implement V4L2.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-20 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-08  7:23 [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH v6] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification Alexandre Courbot
2022-12-08 15:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2022-12-27  5:38   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-11  8:45     ` Cornelia Huck
2023-01-12  6:32       ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-12 15:23         ` Cornelia Huck
2022-12-19 16:59 ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Gordeev
2022-12-20  9:51   ` Cornelia Huck
2022-12-20 10:35     ` Alexander Gordeev [this message]
2022-12-20 17:39       ` Cornelia Huck
2022-12-21 14:56         ` Alexander Gordeev
2022-12-27  7:31   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-11 18:42     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-01-11 20:13       ` Alex Bennée
2023-01-12  6:40         ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-12  6:39       ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-18 23:06         ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-02-06 14:12           ` Cornelia Huck
2023-02-07  6:16             ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-02-07 13:59               ` Cornelia Huck
2023-03-10 10:50                 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-03-10 13:19                   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-03-10 14:20                     ` Cornelia Huck
2023-03-14  5:06                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-03-16 10:12                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-03-17  7:24                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-17 12:51                             ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-17 14:43                               ` Cornelia Huck
2023-04-19  7:39                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-19 21:34                                   ` Enrico Granata
2023-04-21 14:48                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-21  4:02                                   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-21 16:01                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-24  7:52                                       ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-25 16:04                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2023-04-26  6:29                                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-27 14:10                                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-28  4:02                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-28  8:54                                               ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-02  1:07                                                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-05-02 11:12                                                   ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-26  5:52                                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-27 14:20                                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-28  3:22                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-28  8:22                                               ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-26 15:52                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-27 13:23                                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-27 15:12                                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-28  3:24                                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-28  8:31                                             ` Alexander Gordeev
     [not found]                                     ` <CALgKJBqKWng508cB_F_uD2fy9EAvQ36rYR3fRb57sFd3ihpUFw@mail.gmail.com>
2023-04-26 16:00                                       ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-27 10:13                                         ` Bartłomiej Grzesik
2023-04-27 14:34                                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-28  3:22                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-28  7:57                                               ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-21  4:02                               ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-26 15:11                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-27 13:16                                   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-28  7:47                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-03 14:04                                       ` Cornelia Huck
2023-05-03 15:11                                         ` Alex Bennée
2023-05-03 15:53                                           ` Cornelia Huck
2023-05-05  9:57                                             ` Alexander Gordeev
     [not found]                                               ` <168329085253.1880445.14002473591422425775@Monstersaurus>
2023-05-05 15:55                                                 ` Alex Bennée
2023-05-16 12:57                                                   ` Alexander Gordeev
     [not found]                                                   ` <20230506081229.GA8114@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>
     [not found]                                                     ` <20230506081633.GB8114@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>
2023-05-08  8:00                                                       ` [virtio-dev] Re: [libcamera-devel] " Alexandre Courbot
2023-05-16 13:50                                                       ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-17  3:58                                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2023-05-05 12:28                                           ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-05 11:54                                         ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-08  4:55                                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-05-11  8:50                                             ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-11  9:00                                               ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-12  4:15                                                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-05-17  7:35                                                   ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-12  4:09                                               ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-05-16 14:53                                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-17 16:28                                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2023-05-18  6:29                                                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-18 19:35                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-17 11:04                                                 ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-03-27 13:00                         ` Albert Esteve
2023-04-15  5:58                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-04-17 12:56                             ` Cornelia Huck
2023-04-17 13:13                               ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-04-17 13:22                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-02-07 11:11             ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-02-07  6:51           ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-02-07 10:57             ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-01-11 17:04 ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-01-12  6:32   ` Alexandre Courbot
2023-01-12 22:24     ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-01-11 18:45 ` Alexander Gordeev

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