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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: virtualization@lists.osdl.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] x86 paravirt_ops: implementation of paravirt_ops
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:13:41 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1154931222.7642.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200608070739.33428.ak@muc.de>

On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 07:39 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Monday 07 August 2006 06:47, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > This patch does the dumbest possible replacement of paravirtualized
> > instructions: calls through a "paravirt_ops" structure.  Currently
> > these are function implementations of native hardware: hypervisors
> > will override the ops structure with their own variants.
> 
> You should call it HAL - that would make it clearer what it is.

People get visions of grandeur when HAL is mentioned: they think it'll
abstract everything.  I really only want to do the minimum needed for
the hypervisors we have on the table today.

Maybe one day it will abstract everything, then we can call it a HAL.
But I won't be doing that work 8)

> I think I would prefer to patch always. Is there a particular
> reason you can't do that?

We could patch all the indirect calls into direct calls, but I don't
think it's worth bothering: most simply don't matter.

The implementation ensures that someone can get boot on a new hypervisor
by populating the ops struct.  Later they can go back and implement the
patching stuff.

> It would be better to merge this with the existing LOCK prefix patching
> or perhaps the normal alternative() patcher (is there any particular
> reason you can't use it?)
> 
> Three alternative patching mechanisms just seems to be too many

Each backend wants a different patch, so alternative() doesn't cut it.
We could look at generalizing alternative() I guess, but it works fine
so I didn't want to touch it.

Rusty.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-08-07  6:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-07  4:43 [PATCH 1/4] x86 paravirt_ops: create no_paravirt.h for native ops Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  4:45 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86 paravirt_ops: paravirt_desc.h for native descriptor ops Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  4:47   ` [PATCH 3/4] x86 paravirt_ops: implementation of paravirt_ops Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  4:48     ` [PATCH 4/4] x86 paravirt_ops: binary patching infrastructure Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  5:14       ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  5:38       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  5:56         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-07  5:39     ` [PATCH 3/4] x86 paravirt_ops: implementation of paravirt_ops Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  5:56       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-07  6:13       ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2006-08-07  6:20         ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  7:27           ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  5:40   ` [PATCH 2/4] x86 paravirt_ops: paravirt_desc.h for native descriptor ops Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  7:50     ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  8:53       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07 17:19         ` Dave Jones
2006-08-07  5:22 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86 paravirt_ops: create no_paravirt.h for native ops Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-07  5:30 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  5:43   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-07  6:02     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  6:23       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-07  6:03     ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  6:16       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  6:04   ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-07  6:17     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-07  6:27       ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-08-07  7:34         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-07  8:40           ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-08-07 17:54             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-07 20:51     ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-08  1:59       ` Andi Kleen

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