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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] Use %gs for per-cpu sections in kernel
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:55:54 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1159001755.30003.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060923081755.GB10534@muc.de>

On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 10:17 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > Mainly that it makes more sense to use the existing per-cpu concept than
> > introduce another kind of per-cpu var within a special structure, but
> > it's also more efficient (see other post).  Hopefully it will spark
> 
> What post exactly?  AFAIK it is the same code for common code.
> 
> The advantage of the PDA split is that the important variables which are 
> in the PDA can be accessed with a single reference, while generic portable
> per CPU data is the same as it was before. With your scheme even
> the PDA accesses are at least two instructions, right? (I don't
> think gcc/ld can resolve the per cpu section offset into a constant,
> so it has to load them into a register first) 

No, now normal per-cpu accesses are 2 insn, per-cpu accesses using
arch-specific macros are 1 insn.  ie. it's as if every per-cpu variable
were in the "pda".

Here's the reply to Jeremy's query:

Jeremy says:
> Or is the only percpu benefit you're getting from %gs is a slightly 
> quicker way of getting the percpu_offset?  Does that help much?

In generic code, that's true (the arch-specific accessors can do it in 1
insn, not two).  But it's still a help.  This is __raw_get_cpu_var(x)
before:

   3:   89 e0                   mov    %esp,%eax
   5:   25 00 e0 ff ff          and    $0xffffe000,%eax
   a:   8b 40 08                mov    0x8(%eax),%eax
   d:   8b 04 85 00 00 00 00    mov    0x0(,%eax,4),%eax
                        10: R_386_32    __per_cpu_offset
  14:   8b 80 00 00 00 00       mov    0x0(%eax),%eax
                        16: R_386_32    per_cpu__x

And this is after:

  1f:   65 a1 00 00 00 00       mov    %gs:0x0,%eax
                        21: R_386_32    per_cpu__this_cpu_off
  25:   8b 80 00 00 00 00       mov    0x0(%eax),%eax
                        27: R_386_32    per_cpu__x

So we go from 5 instructions, 23 bytes, 3 memory references, to 2
instructions, 12 bytes, 2 memory references (although the extra mem ref
will almost certainly have been in cache).

> > interest in making dynamic-percpu pointers use the same offset scheme,
> > now x86 will experience the benefits.
> > 
> > And we might even get a third user of local_t!
> 
> I'm not holding my breath. I guess it was a nice idea before preemption
> became popular ...

Well, since Xen doesn't support preemption, perhaps we'll convince
distros to turn it off again? 8)

Sorry for the confusion,
Rusty.
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-23  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-22 11:51 [PATCH 0/7] Using %gs for per-cpu areas on x86 Rusty Russell
2006-09-22 11:53 ` [PATCH 1/7] Use per-cpu GDT tables from early in boot Rusty Russell
2006-09-22 11:55   ` [PATCH 2/7] Rusty Russell
2006-09-22 11:56     ` [PATCH 3/7] Update sys_vm86 to cope with changed pt_regs and %gs usage Rusty Russell
2006-09-22 11:58       ` [PATCH 4/7] Fix places where using %gs changes the usermode ABI Rusty Russell
2006-09-22 11:59         ` [PATCH 5/7] Use %gs for per-cpu sections in kernel Rusty Russell
2006-09-22 12:00           ` [PATCH 6/7] (Optional) implement smp_processor_id() as a per-cpu var Rusty Russell
2006-09-22 12:01             ` [PATCH 7/7] (Optional) implement current " Rusty Russell
2006-09-25  5:29               ` Rusty Russell
2006-09-25  5:27             ` [PATCH 6/7] (Optional) implement smp_processor_id() " Rusty Russell
2006-09-22 12:32           ` [PATCH 5/7] Use %gs for per-cpu sections in kernel Andi Kleen
2006-09-22 22:43             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-22 23:52               ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-23  4:51             ` Rusty Russell
2006-09-23  8:17               ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-23  8:55                 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2006-09-22 22:39           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-23  4:31             ` Rusty Russell
2006-09-25  1:03               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-25  1:16                 ` Rusty Russell
2006-09-25  1:36                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-25  2:51                     ` Rusty Russell
2006-09-25  5:25                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-25  6:03                         ` Rusty Russell
2006-09-25  6:25                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-25 23:33                             ` Rusty Russell
2006-09-23  8:13             ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-25  1:07               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-25  1:20                 ` Rusty Russell
2006-09-25  5:26                   ` Rusty Russell
2006-09-22 22:24     ` [PATCH 2/7] Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-23  4:36       ` Rusty Russell

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