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From: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.osdl.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, frankeh@watson.ibm.com,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, jeremy@goop.org, andrea@qumranet.com,
	clameter@sgi.com, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl
Subject: Re: [patch 0/6] Guest page hinting version 6.
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 09:00:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1210143614.14130.3.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1210132187.17107.40.camel@bodhitayantram.eng.vmware.com>

On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 20:49 -0700, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> > I suspect one of the problems is that there are too many state transitions
> > to have it implemented with a low overhead on anything but S390, and even
> > there you need milicoded instructions to handle things.
> > 
> > If the number of transitions can be reduced, page hinting could be useful
> > for KVM, too.
> 
> Spot on Rik, if every transition becomes a hypercall (and a synchronous
> one at that), it isn't workable for us.  If, on the other hand, you
> share the state bits between the guest and hypervisor, you need a giant
> (standalone) bit array for per-page state, which is neither convenient
> for Linux nor the hypervisor.  I believe s390 has an 'instruction' to
> migrate the state bits into the hypervisor per-physical-page data
> without requiring a hypercall.

That is why we invented the millicoded ESSA instruction on s390. We had
an emulation of the instruction to test things. It worked but was
awfully slow.

-- 
blue skies,
  Martin.

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.

      reply	other threads:[~2008-05-07  7:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-12 13:21 [patch 0/6] Guest page hinting version 6 Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 1/6] Guest page hinting: core + volatile page cache Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 23:12   ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-13  9:24     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 2/6] Guest page hinting: volatile swap cache Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 3/6] Guest page hinting: mlocked pages Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 23:27   ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-13  9:13     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 4/6] Guest page hinting: writable page table entries Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 23:35   ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-13  9:11     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 5/6] Guest page hinting: minor fault optimization Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 6/6] Guest page hinting: s390 support Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 16:19   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12 16:28     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 16:44       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12 16:59         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 17:48           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12 20:04             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-12 20:45               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12 20:56                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-12 21:36                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-13  9:45                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13 16:07                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-13 16:17                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-13 16:55                           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13 17:05                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-13 17:23                               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13  9:42                   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13  9:36                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13  9:32               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 22:41 ` [patch 0/6] Guest page hinting version 6 Rusty Russell
2008-03-13  9:47   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13 16:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-03-13 17:14   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13 17:45   ` Zachary Amsden
2008-03-13 19:45     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-13 21:41       ` Zachary Amsden
2008-03-13 18:41   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-13 18:55     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-03-13 19:53       ` Zachary Amsden
2008-03-14 18:30         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-14 21:32           ` Zachary Amsden
2008-03-14 21:37             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-17  9:21             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-05-06 15:33   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-05-06 19:46     ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07  3:49       ` Zachary Amsden
2008-05-07  7:00         ` Martin Schwidefsky [this message]

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