From: Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
"virtualization@lists.osdl.org" <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Paravirtualization on VMware's Platform [VMI].
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:30:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1253647845.10565.20.camel@ank32.eng.vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090920074247.GA5733@elte.hu>
Hi Ingo,
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 00:42 -0700, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> The thing is, the overwhelming majority of vmware users dont benefit
> from hardware features like nested page tables yet. So this needs to be
> done _way_ more carefully, with a proper sunset period of a couple of
> kernel cycles.
I am fine with that too. Below is a patch which adds notes in
feature-removal-schedule.txt, I have marked it for removal from 2.6.34.
Please consider this patch for 2.6.32.
> If we were able to rip out all (or most) of paravirt from arch/x86 it
> would be tempting for other technical reasons - but the patch above is
> well localized.
We can certainly look at removing some paravirt-hooks which are only
used by VMI. Not sure if there are any but will take a look when we
actually remove VMI.
Thanks,
Alok
--
Mark VMI for deprecation in feature-removal-schedule.txt.
From: Alok N Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>
Add text in feature-removal.txt and also modify Kconfig to disable
vmi by default.
Patch on top of tip/master.
Details about VMware's plan about retiring VMI can be found here
http://blogs.vmware.com/guestosguide/2009/09/vmi-retirement.html
---
Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
arch/x86/Kconfig | 8 +++++---
2 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt b/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt
index fa75220..b985328 100644
--- a/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt
+++ b/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt
@@ -459,3 +459,27 @@ Why: OSS sound_core grabs all legacy minors (0-255) of SOUND_MAJOR
will also allow making ALSA OSS emulation independent of
sound_core. The dependency will be broken then too.
Who: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
+
+----------------------------
+
+What: Support for VMware's guest paravirtuliazation technique [VMI] will be
+ dropped.
+When: 2.6.34
+Why: With the recent innovations in CPU hardware acceleration technologies
+ from Intel and AMD, VMware ran a few experiments to compare these
+ techniques to guest paravirtulization technique on VMware's platform.
+ These hardware assisted virtualization techniques have outperformed the
+ performance benefits provided by VMI in most of the workloads. VMware
+ expects that these hardware features will be ubiquitous in a couple of
+ years, as a result, VMware has started a phased retirement of this
+ feature from the hypervisor. We will be removing this feature from the
+ Kernel too, in a couple of releases.
+ Please note that VMI has always been an optimization and non-VMI kernels
+ still work fine on VMware's platform.
+
+ For more details about VMI retirement take a look at this,
+ http://blogs.vmware.com/guestosguide/2009/09/vmi-retirement.html
+
+Who: Alok N Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>
+
+----------------------------
diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
index e214f45..1f3e156 100644
--- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
@@ -485,14 +485,16 @@ if PARAVIRT_GUEST
source "arch/x86/xen/Kconfig"
config VMI
- bool "VMI Guest support"
- select PARAVIRT
- depends on X86_32
+ bool "VMI Guest support [will be deprecated soon]"
+ default n
+ depends on X86_32 && PARAVIRT
---help---
VMI provides a paravirtualized interface to the VMware ESX server
(it could be used by other hypervisors in theory too, but is not
at the moment), by linking the kernel to a GPL-ed ROM module
provided by the hypervisor.
+ VMware has started a phased retirement of this feature from there
+ products. Please see feature-removal-schedule.txt for details.
config KVM_CLOCK
bool "KVM paravirtualized clock"
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-22 19:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-18 0:17 Paravirtualization on VMware's Platform [VMI] Alok Kataria
2009-09-18 0:34 ` Chris Wright
2009-09-18 0:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-18 0:58 ` Chris Wright
2009-09-18 1:43 ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-19 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-19 22:44 ` Greg KH
2009-09-20 1:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-20 3:56 ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-20 3:59 ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-20 7:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-20 7:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-20 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-20 15:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-20 19:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 8:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-22 16:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-22 18:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-22 18:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-22 19:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-22 19:30 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-22 7:22 ` Rusty Russell
2009-09-22 16:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-22 19:30 ` Alok Kataria [this message]
2009-09-22 19:47 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-22 21:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-22 21:54 ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-22 22:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-23 7:29 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-29 0:45 ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-29 2:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 3:00 ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-29 9:01 ` Chris Wright
2009-09-29 17:25 ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-29 17:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 17:36 ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-29 18:21 ` Chris Wright
2009-09-29 8:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-29 16:49 ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-29 16:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 17:55 ` Learning question regarding virtio and partvirt_ops Hank Janssen
2009-09-29 19:02 ` Brian Jackson
2009-10-02 3:00 ` Paravirtualization on VMware's Platform [VMI] Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-02 4:45 ` Alok Kataria
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