From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
KONRAD Frederic <fred.konrad@greensocs.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] virtio-pci: new config layout: using memory BAR
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 08:19:57 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1370470797.3766.231.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d2s0mdh8.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
On Wed, 2013-06-05 at 16:53 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Existing PowerPC remaps PIO to MMAP so it works fine today.
>
> Future platforms may not do this but future platforms can use a
> different device. They certainly won't be able to use the existing
> drivers anyway.
>
> Ben, am I wrong here?
Well, we do remap PIO, though it's ugly and annoying so we'd rather
avoid it alltogether :-)
Our latest HW PHBs don't support PIO at all, so while we can still
support it in the virtual ones in the guest for ever, it's becoming
pretty clear that PIO is on the way out ...
> >> > - we won't be able to drop IO BAR from virtio
> >>
> >> An IO BAR is useless if it means we can't have more than 12 devices.
> >
> >
> > It's not useless. A smart BIOS can enable devices one by one as
> > it tries to boot from them.
>
> A smart BIOS can also use MMIO to program virtio.
Indeed :-)
I see no reason why not providing both access path though. Have the PIO
BAR there for compatibility/legacy/BIOS/x86 purposes and *also* have the
MMIO window which I'd be happy to favor on power.
We could even put somewhere in there a feature bit set by qemu to
indicate whether it thinks PIO or MMIO is faster on a given platform if
you really think that's worth it (I don't).
Cheers,
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-05 22:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-28 16:03 [PATCH RFC] virtio-pci: new config layout: using memory BAR Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <87bo7vvxej.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
2013-05-28 17:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 17:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 2:02 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-29 4:33 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <87mwremmm8.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2013-05-29 7:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 8:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 10:07 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-28 18:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 19:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 4:31 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-29 8:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 8:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 9:00 ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-29 10:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 10:53 ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-29 12:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 12:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 12:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 12:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 13:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 13:35 ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-29 13:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 14:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-30 7:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:16 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <8761y1q3aw.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
2013-05-29 14:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 14:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:55 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <87k3mhkf7o.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
2013-05-29 16:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 18:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30 3:58 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-30 5:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30 7:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03 0:17 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-30 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-30 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03 0:26 ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-03 10:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-04 5:31 ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-04 6:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 7:19 ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-05 10:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 12:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 14:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 15:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 15:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 15:46 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <87bo7ktvaw.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
2013-06-05 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 18:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 19:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 19:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 20:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 21:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-05 21:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 20:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 21:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 21:53 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <87d2s0mdh8.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
2013-06-05 22:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2013-06-05 22:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 23:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-05 19:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-06 3:42 ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-06 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-07 1:58 ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-07 8:25 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-05 21:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-05 21:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 21:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 21:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-05 22:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 23:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-06 0:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-06 6:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-06 13:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-06 15:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-06 15:06 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-06 15:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-06 15:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-06 15:22 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-07-08 4:25 ` Kevin O'Connor
[not found] ` <871u8fp9jd.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
2013-06-07 11:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11 7:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 7:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11 8:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 8:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11 8:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 8:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11 8:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 8:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11 8:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-06 8:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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