From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: Xen & VMI? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:18:13 +0100 Message-ID: <20070306171813.GA21218@elte.hu> References: <1173101297.26165.39.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1173142644.4644.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45ECBDDC.8080708@vmware.com> <45ECC076.9050209@goop.org> <45ECC91D.1020809@vmware.com> <45ECC9B6.1060209@goop.org> <20070306081909.GA9331@elte.hu> <45ED2F53.2040101@goop.org> <20070306092636.GC26073@elte.hu> <45ED99F8.9060705@goop.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45ED99F8.9060705@goop.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: virtualization-bounces@lists.osdl.org Errors-To: virtualization-bounces@lists.osdl.org To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge Cc: virtualization , Jan Beulich , Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , Roland McGrath , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: virtualization@lists.linuxfoundation.org * Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote: > > My suggestion would be for Linux to make only a /single/ external = > > ABI promise: VMI. (and we can extend it with higher-level paravirt = > > ops, etc.) > = > "VMI" is not a promise, it's just three letters. It doesn't even mean = > the same thing now as it did 12 months ago. Turning "VMI" from three = > letters into anything remotely like a promise is a huge amount of work = > which requires: > = > 1. someone actually sit down and fully document what all those > entrypoints are going to do > 2. everyone to implement them > 3. someone to test that all the implementations conform to the > document (bearing in mind that if anyone is going to go to all > this effort, they're going to use this with non-Linux guests) > 4. and repeat all that every subsequent update There's no process needed. The only thing needed is to treat the Linux = implementation as the reference design, documentation and specification. = Treat it as we treat the Linux system calls. We promise not to change = them. There's no "process" for that either, other than our promise, our = taste and our best efforts - plus the backing of all distributions and = the threat of a few million users who start yelling (or worse) if we = break it ;) Ingo