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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, jbeulich@novell.com,
	jeremy@goop.org, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	chrisw@sous-sol.org, virtualization@lists.osdl.org,
	anthony@codemonkey.ws, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [patch 13/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Consistently wrap paravirt ops callsites to make them patchable
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:59:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703192159.42396.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070319.120854.30182994.davem@davemloft.net>


> It's inability to handle sequences like the above sounds to me like
> a very good argument to _not_ merge the unwinder back into the tree.

The unwinder can handle it fine, it is just that gcc right now cannot
be taught to generate correct unwind tables for it. If paravirt ops
is widely used i guess it would be possible to find some workaround
for that though.
 
There is one case it truly cannot handle (it would be possible by switching 
to dwarf3), but that was relatively easily eliminated and wasn't a problem
imho.

> To me, that unwinder is nothing but trouble, it severly limits what
> cases you can use special calling conventions via inline asm (and we
> have done that on several occaisions) and even ignoring that the
> unwinder only works half the time.

Initially we had some bugs that accounted for near all failures, but they 
were all fixed in the latest version.
 
> Please don't subject us to another couple months of hair-pulling only
> to have Linus yank the thing out again, there are certainly more
> useful things to spend time on :-)

I think better backtraces are a good use of my time. Sorry if you
disagree on that.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-19 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 201+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-01 23:24 [patch 00/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 01/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Fix typo in sync_constant_test_bit()s name Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 02/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: ignore vgacon if hardware not present Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 03/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: use paravirt_nop to consistently mark no-op operations Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:44   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 18:43     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 19:49       ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 20:00         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 21:59           ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 22:10             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 22:18               ` Chris Wright
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 04/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add pagetable accessors to pack and unpack pagetable entries Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 18:42     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 05/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: paravirt_ops: hooks to set up initial pagetable Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:33   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 18:39     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 19:35       ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-17  9:47       ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 06/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: paravirt_ops: allocate a fixmap slot Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:31   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 07/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Allow paravirt backend to choose kernel PMD sharing Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:31   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 08/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: add hooks to intercept mm creation and destruction Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:38     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 09/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: remove HAVE_ARCH_MM_LIFETIME, define no-op architecture implementations Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:27   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 10/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: rename struct paravirt_patch to paravirt_patch_site for clarity Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 11/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Use patch site IDs computed from offset in paravirt_ops structure Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 12/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Fix patch site clobbers to include return register Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-02  0:45   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-02  0:49     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-02  0:52       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-02  0:58         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-02  1:18           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-16  9:26   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:37     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 13/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Consistently wrap paravirt ops callsites to make them patchable Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16  9:33     ` David Miller
2007-03-16  9:57       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 19:16         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 20:38       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-17 10:33         ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-18  7:33           ` David Miller
2007-03-18  7:59             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-18 12:08             ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-18 15:58               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-18 17:04                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-18 17:29                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-18 19:30                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-18 23:46                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19 10:57                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-19 17:58                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19 19:08                           ` David Miller
2007-03-19 20:59                             ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-03-20  3:18                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20  3:47                                 ` David Miller
2007-03-20  4:19                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-20 13:28                                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 16:25                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-20 17:42                                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 16:52                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 18:03                                             ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 17:27                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 19:21                                                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 18:49                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 20:23                                                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 21:39                                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-03-20 21:49                                                         ` [Xen-devel] " Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 23:51                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 23:43                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-21  6:08                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-20 16:12                                     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-03-20  1:23                         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20  1:45                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19  2:47               ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-19 18:25                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-19 18:38                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-19 18:44                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-19 19:33                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-20  0:01                     ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-20  2:00                       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20  4:20                         ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-20  5:54                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-20 11:33                           ` Andreas Kleen
2007-03-20 15:09                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 15:58                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-20 16:06                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 16:31                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-20 22:09                                   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-21  0:24                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-21  2:53                                       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-21  2:15                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-21  3:43                                           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20 22:43                                   ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-20 23:08                                     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20 23:33                                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-21  1:14                                         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20 23:41                                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-21  0:20                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-20 19:28                                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 19:54                                   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-20 20:02                                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-20 16:26                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-20 22:41                               ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-20 17:00                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-21  0:03                             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-12 23:16                               ` David Miller
2007-03-19 18:41                   ` Chris Wright
2007-03-19 19:10                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19 19:46                     ` David Miller
2007-03-19 20:06                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19 23:42                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-16 17:36     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 23:29       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-17  0:40         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-17  9:10           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-17  9:26     ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 14/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: add common patching machinery Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:20   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-17  9:15     ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 15/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add apply_to_page_range() which applies a function to a pte range Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:19   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 16:47     ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 17:08     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:24 ` [patch 16/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Allocate and free vmalloc areas Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:16   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:05     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 17/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add nosegneg capability to the vsyscall page notes Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:15   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 21:26     ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-16 21:56       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 22:20         ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 18/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add XEN config options Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:14   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:04     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 19/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add Xen interface header files Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 20/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Core Xen implementation Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:14   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 12:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 16:33     ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 16:44       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 16:57         ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 17:12     ` Chris Wright
2007-03-19 18:05       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-03-19 18:13         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-19 18:15         ` Chris Wright
2007-03-17  9:13     ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-18  7:03       ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 21/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Use the hvc console infrastructure for Xen console Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  8:54   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16  9:28     ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
     [not found]     ` <C22013C9.B9E6%keir@xensource.com>
2007-03-16  9:58       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 10:31         ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-03-16 10:31         ` Keir Fraser
     [not found]         ` <C2202295.BA49%keir@xensource.com>
2007-03-16 11:41           ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-16 11:58             ` Keir Fraser
2007-03-16 11:58             ` Keir Fraser
2007-03-16 17:02     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 22/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add early printk support via hvc console Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  8:52   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 23/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add Xen grant table support Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  8:51   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:00     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 24/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add the Xenbus sysfs and virtual device hotplug driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  8:47   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 16:18     ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 16:19       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 16:40         ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16 17:53           ` Greg KH
2007-03-16 16:57     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 25/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add Xen virtual block device driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-01 23:25 ` [patch 26/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add the Xen virtual network " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-02  0:42   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-03-02  0:56     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-02  1:30       ` [RFC] Arp announce (for Xen) Stephen Hemminger
2007-03-02  8:46         ` Keir Fraser
2007-03-02 12:54         ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-02 14:08           ` jamal
2007-03-02 18:08         ` Chris Wright
2007-03-06  4:35         ` David Miller
2007-03-06 18:51           ` [RFC] ARP notify option Stephen Hemminger
2007-03-06 19:04             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 19:07             ` Chris Wright
2007-03-06 21:18             ` Chris Friesen
2007-03-06 22:52               ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-03-07  6:42               ` Pekka Savola
2007-03-07 17:00                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-03-02  1:21     ` [patch 26/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Add the Xen virtual network device driver Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-02  1:26       ` Chris Wright
2007-03-16  8:42 ` [patch 00/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 16:55   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16  9:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-16 17:26   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-16 18:59     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 19:26       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-02-27  8:13 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-27  8:13 ` [patch 13/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Consistently wrap paravirt ops callsites to make them patchable Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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