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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add I/O hypercalls for i386 paravirt
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:20:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070824122025.GA3886@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46CBD1A5.8070702@vmware.com>

Hi!

> >>In general, I/O in a virtual guest is subject to 
> >>performance problems. The I/O can not be completed 
> >>physically, but must be virtualized.  This
> >>means trapping and decoding port I/O instructions from 
> >>the guest OS. Not only is the trap for a #GP 
> >>heavyweight, both in the processor and
> >>the hypervisor (which usually has a complex #GP path), 
> >>but this forces
> >>the hypervisor to decode the individual instruction 
> >>which has faulted. Worse, even with hardware assist 
> >>such as VT, the exit reason alone is
> >>not sufficient to determine the true nature of the 
> >>faulting instruction,
> >>requiring a complex and costly instruction decode and 
> >>simulation.
> >>
> >>This patch provides hypercalls for the i386 port I/O 
> >>instructions, which
> >>vastly helps guests which use native-style drivers.  
> >>For certain VMI
> >>workloads, this provides a performance boost of up to 
> >>30%.  We expect
> >>KVM and lguest to be able to achieve similar gains on 
> >>I/O intensive
> >>workloads.
> >>
> >>    
> >
> >What about cost on hardware?
> >  
> 
> On modern hardware, port I/O is about the most expensive 
> thing you can do.  The extra function call cost is 
> totally masked by the stall.  We have measured with port 
> I/O converted like this on real hardware, and have seen 
> zero measurable impact on macro-benchmarks.  
> Micro-benchmarks that generate massively repeated port 
> I/O might show some effect on ancient hardware, but I 
> can't even imagine a workload which does such a thing, 
> other than a polling port I/O loop perhaps - which would 
> not be performance critical in any case I can reasonably 
> imagine.

SCSI controller in ISA slot? IDE without DMA enabled?

Yes, those are performance-critical. The second case seems common with
compactflash cards.
							Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-24 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-22  5:23 [PATCH] Add I/O hypercalls for i386 paravirt Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22  5:34 ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22  5:40   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22  8:37     ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 16:16       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22  6:25   ` Rusty Russell
2007-08-22 10:35     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22  9:51       ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 11:08         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 10:23           ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 11:23             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 12:09               ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 13:15                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 12:32                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 16:11             ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]     ` <1188237281.5972.69.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]       ` <46D3C60B.3050605@vmware.com>
2007-08-28 11:18         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-08-22  6:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-22  6:03   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-24 12:20     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-08-22 10:22 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 16:48   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22 17:59     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 17:07       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22 19:46         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 20:43           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22 22:04             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 21:25               ` Alan Cox
2007-08-22 21:41                 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-23  5:34                 ` Rusty Russell
2007-08-22 21:45               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-08-22 17:34       ` Alan Cox
2007-08-22 21:54 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-08-22 22:15   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2007-08-22 22:20     ` Chris Wright
2007-08-22 22:29       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2007-08-22 22:34         ` Chris Wright
2007-08-22 23:14         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-08-23  0:47           ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-23  0:38             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-08-23  2:34               ` Andi Kleen

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