From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: libertas-dev@lists.infradead.org, Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Roland Dreier <rolandd@cisco.com>, Divy Le Ray <divy@chelsio.com>,
Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] net: skb_orphan on dev_hard_start_xmit
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:57:28 +0930 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906012157.29465.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A1FFB04.30305@gmail.com>
On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:41:00 am Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Rusty Russell a écrit :
> > DaveM points out that there are advantages to doing it generally (it's
> > more likely to be on same CPU than after xmit), and I couldn't find
> > any new starvation issues in simple benchmarking here.
>
> If really no starvations are possible at all, I really wonder why some
> guys added memory accounting to UDP flows. Maybe they dont run "simple
> benchmarks" but real apps ? :)
Well, without any accounting at all you could use quite a lot of memory as
there are many places packets can be queued.
> For TCP, I agree your patch is a huge benefit, since its paced by remote
> ACKS and window control
I doubt that. There'll be some cache friendliness, but I'm not sure it'll be
measurable, let alone "huge". It's the win to drivers which don't have a
timely and batching tx free mechanism which I aim for.
> , but an UDP sender will likely be able to saturate
> a link.
I couldn't see any difference in saturation here (with default scheduler and an
100MBit e1000e). Two reasons come to mind: firstly, only the hardware queue is
unregulated: the tx queue is still accounted. And when you add scheduling to
the mix, I can't in practice cause starvation of other senders.
Hope that clarifies,
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-01 12:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200905292344.56814.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-05-29 15:11 ` [PATCH 1/4] net: skb_orphan on dev_hard_start_xmit Eric Dumazet
[not found] ` <4A1FFB04.30305@gmail.com>
2009-06-01 12:27 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2009-06-03 21:02 ` Eric Dumazet
[not found] ` <4A26E4FD.5010405@gmail.com>
2009-06-04 3:54 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <200906041324.59118.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-06-04 4:00 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090603.210054.18839960.davem@davemloft.net>
2009-06-04 4:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-06-04 4:56 ` David Miller
2009-06-01 19:47 ` Patrick Ohly
[not found] ` <1243885642.22917.35.camel@pohly-MOBL>
2009-06-02 7:25 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090602.002553.143476036.davem@davemloft.net>
2009-06-02 14:08 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <200906022338.30618.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-06-03 0:14 ` David Miller
2009-07-03 7:55 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20090703075530.GA25190@gondor.apana.org.au>
2009-07-04 3:02 ` David Miller
2009-07-04 3:08 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20090704030830.GA32442@gondor.apana.org.au>
2009-07-04 3:13 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090703.201347.146036232.davem@davemloft.net>
2009-07-04 7:42 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20090704074245.GA1615@gondor.apana.org.au>
2009-07-04 9:09 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20090704090910.GA2185@gondor.apana.org.au>
2009-07-05 3:26 ` Herbert Xu
2009-07-05 3:34 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20090705033408.GB7430@gondor.apana.org.au>
2009-08-18 1:47 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090817.184712.180559154.davem@davemloft.net>
2009-08-19 3:19 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20090819031926.GA17367@gondor.apana.org.au>
2009-08-19 3:34 ` David Miller
2009-05-29 14:14 Rusty Russell
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