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From: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/15] virtio_console: Initialize hv_ops struct at declaration instead of in the probe() routine
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:24:54 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091112055454.GD6416@amit-x200.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911121231.59312.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

On (Thu) Nov 12 2009 [12:31:59], Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:12:54 am Amit Shah wrote:
> > On (Tue) Nov 10 2009 [23:37:39], Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > I chose "port" as a name; it's better once we're finished than
> > > "struct virtio_console_struct". 
> > 
> > I wanted to separate out a 'virtio device' which has vqs common to all
> > ports and a 'port', which has its buffers, tells us if it's a console
> > port, and all the other port-specific stuff.
> > 
> > I find 'port' and 'ports' confusing. In your implementation, 'port' has
> > vqs.
> 
> Yep, that's wrong, no wonder you found it confusing.  They should be in the
> 'struct ports'.  ie. vq == struct ports =contains= N x struct port.
> 
> I'm steering away from the word "console", since that will now be one use
> of this driver.  We may end up renaming it "virtio_ports".

Cool!

> > > Re: [PATCH 04/15] virtio_console: Introduce a workqueue for handling host->guest notifications
> > > 
> > > This one I disagree with.  The host will wait until a buffer comes available.
> > > It has to anyway, and it should work just fine.  *If* we need speed, then we
> > > might need workqueues so we reduce guest exits, but I don't think we need that
> > > yet.
> > 
> > So each port has a buffer that gets added to the vq and when data is
> > received, it would be queued in the port-specific ring. Ports may want
> > data to be cached when they're not open or when the userspace app is
> > slow in reading the data. In that case, we'll have to allocate a new
> > buffer to be stuffed in the vq.
> 
> OK, I was thinking one buffer per vq.  But that doesn't really work for input,
> since we might get input on any port, and not want it.  Seems OK for output
> tho.

One buffer works OK for output, but again the waiting might be the
issue.

> Hmm, radical idea: how about 1 vq per input?  Share one for output, but
> separate ones for each input port?  That limits us to 255 ports, but would
> allow the simplistic "just put a buffer in the queue when you want to read".
> 
> May need a control input vq as well in this case?

I went down that path too; only to discover hotplug will be an issue
with the new MSI code: it wants us to pre-declare all the vqs. That's
some overhead to incur. Also, (as Avi pointed out initially) one vq per
port is too much of an overhead anyway for such simple functionality.

Given this, can you please look at the series I had posted (I'll move it
to your series plus some delta) so that I have a general idea of
proceeding before git-rebase drives me totally mad? :-)

Thanks,
		Amit

      reply	other threads:[~2009-11-12  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-10  9:41 virtio_console: support for multiple ports, console and generic Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41 ` [PATCH 01/15] virtio_console: Initialize hv_ops struct at declaration instead of in the probe() routine Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41   ` [PATCH 02/15] virtio_console: We support only one device at a time Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41     ` [PATCH 03/15] virtio_console: Club all globals into one struct Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41       ` [PATCH 04/15] virtio_console: Introduce a workqueue for handling host->guest notifications Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41         ` [PATCH 05/15] virtio_console: Buffer data that comes in from the host Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41           ` [PATCH 06/15] virtio_console: Create a buffer pool for sending data to host Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41             ` [PATCH 07/15] virtio_console: config: Prepare for handling multiple ports and hotplug Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41               ` [PATCH 08/15] virtio_console: Add support for multiple ports: console as well as generic Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41                 ` [PATCH 09/15] virtio_console: Handle port hot-plug Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41                   ` [PATCH 10/15] virtio_console: Register with sysfs and create a 'name' attribute Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41                     ` [PATCH 11/15] virtio_console: Ensure only one process can have a port open at a time Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41                       ` [PATCH 12/15] virtio_console: Add debugfs files for each port to expose debug info Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41                         ` [PATCH 13/15] virtio_console: Add throttling support to prevent flooding ports Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41                           ` [PATCH 14/15] virtio_console: Add option to remove cached buffers on port close Amit Shah
2009-11-10  9:41                             ` [PATCH 15/15] virtio_console: Add ability to hot-unplug ports Amit Shah
2009-11-10 13:07   ` [PATCH 01/15] virtio_console: Initialize hv_ops struct at declaration instead of in the probe() routine Rusty Russell
2009-11-11 18:42     ` Amit Shah
2009-11-12  2:01       ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-12  5:54         ` Amit Shah [this message]

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