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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/31] virtio: console: Buffer data that comes from the host
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 08:46:34 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201001170846.34831.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100114031753.GG24002@amit-x200.redhat.com>

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:47:53 pm Amit Shah wrote:
> On (Thu) Jan 14 2010 [09:45:12], Rusty Russell wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:54:52 pm Amit Shah wrote:
> > > On (Wed) Jan 13 2010 [21:43:32], Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:41:48 pm Amit Shah wrote:
> > > > > On (Mon) Jan 04 2010 [15:17:17], Amit Shah wrote:
> > > > > > On (Mon) Jan 04 2010 [19:45:30], Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:04:28 am Amit Shah wrote:
> > > > > > > > The console could be flooded with data from the host; handle this
> > > > > > > > situation by buffering the data.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Is this still true?  If we only add_buf when we're ready, surely the host
> > > > > > > can't flood us with one virtqueue per port?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I guess I meant something completely different. This message is
> > > > > > definitely misleading and I'll re-word it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You're right; we don't need the 'guest throttling' feature that was
> > > > > > needed earlier.
> > > > > 
> > > > > BTW I meant this series doesn't have the guest throttling feature.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Rusty, did you just have this comment for the series? If yes, I'll just
> > > > > re-send this patch with a fixed description.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't see why we ever allocate more than one incoming buffer though?
> > > 
> > > To prevent against a fast host app sending data to a slow guest
> > > consumer.
> > > 
> > > Also, we use the in_vq for the buffering, so the number of buffers is
> > > limited by the queue size that's declared by the host.
> > 
> > But if the guest only ever registers one input buffer at a time, we get the
> > same effect.  And it means we use less memory.  And our code is simpler.
> 
> The number of buffers to be registered in the vq comes from the host
> anyway; if the host wants to be able to use multiple buffers, we should
> be able to use them.

I have sympathy with this, but I'd prefer to see the minimal solution first
and look at this later.  A single buffer should make for simpler code...

> Also, we lose out on the ability of the host to send us data when the
> guest is slow to read.

That happens at some point anyway.

Thanks,
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-16 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-22 14:34 [PATCH 00/31] virtio: console: Fixes, multiple devices and generic ports Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34 ` [PATCH 01/31] virtio: console: comment cleanup Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34   ` [PATCH 02/31] virtio: console: statically initialize virtio_cons Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34     ` [PATCH 03/31] hvc_console: make the ops pointer const Amit Shah
     [not found]     ` <1261492481-19817-4-git-send-email-amit.shah@redhat.com>
2009-12-22 14:34       ` [PATCH 04/31] hvc_console: Remove __devinit annotation from hvc_alloc Amit Shah
     [not found]       ` <1261492481-19817-5-git-send-email-amit.shah@redhat.com>
2009-12-22 14:34         ` [PATCH 05/31] virtio: console: We support only one device at a time Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34           ` [PATCH 06/31] virtio: console: port encapsulation Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34             ` [PATCH 07/31] virtio: console: encapsulate buffer information in a struct Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34               ` [PATCH 08/31] virtio: console: ensure add_inbuf can work for multiple ports as well Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                 ` [PATCH 09/31] virtio: console: introduce a get_inbuf helper to fetch bufs from in_vq Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                   ` [PATCH 10/31] virtio: console: use vdev->priv to avoid accessing global var Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                     ` [PATCH 11/31] virtio: console: don't assume a single console port Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                       ` [PATCH 12/31] virtio: console: remove global var Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                         ` [PATCH 13/31] virtio: console: struct ports for multiple ports per device Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                           ` [PATCH 14/31] virtio: console: ensure console size is updated on hvc open Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                             ` [PATCH 15/31] virtio: console: Separate out console-specific data into a separate struct Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                               ` [PATCH 16/31] virtio: console: Separate out console init into a new function Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                 ` [PATCH 17/31] virtio: console: Separate out find_vqs operation into a different function Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                   ` [PATCH 18/31] virtio: console: Buffer data that comes from the host Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                     ` [PATCH 19/31] virtio: console: Introduce a send_buf function for a common path for sending data to host Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                       ` [PATCH 20/31] virtio: console: Introduce a 'header' for each buffer towards supporting multiport Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                         ` [PATCH 21/31] virtio: console: Add a new MULTIPORT feature, support for generic ports Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                           ` [PATCH 22/31] virtio: console: Prepare for writing to / reading from userspace buffers Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                             ` [PATCH 23/31] virtio: console: Associate each port with a char device Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                               ` [PATCH 24/31] virtio: console: Add file operations to ports for open/read/write/poll Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                                 ` [PATCH 25/31] virtio: console: Ensure only one process can have a port open at a time Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                                   ` [PATCH 26/31] virtio: console: Register with sysfs and create a 'name' attribute for ports Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                                     ` [PATCH 27/31] virtio: console: Add throttling support to prevent flooding ports Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                                       ` [PATCH 28/31] virtio: console: Add option to remove cached buffers on port close Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                                         ` [PATCH 29/31] virtio: console: Handle port hot-plug Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                                           ` [PATCH 30/31] virtio: console: Add ability to hot-unplug ports Amit Shah
2009-12-22 14:34                                                             ` [PATCH 31/31] virtio: console: Add debugfs files for each port to expose debug info Amit Shah
2010-01-04  9:15                                     ` [PATCH 18/31] virtio: console: Buffer data that comes from the host Rusty Russell
2010-01-04  9:47                                       ` Amit Shah
2010-01-13  6:11                                         ` Amit Shah
2010-01-13 11:13                                           ` Rusty Russell
2010-01-13 11:24                                             ` Amit Shah
2010-01-13 23:15                                               ` Rusty Russell
2010-01-14  3:17                                                 ` Amit Shah
2010-01-16 22:16                                                   ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2010-01-12  2:21       ` [PATCH 03/31] hvc_console: make the ops pointer const Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]       ` <1263262906.724.175.camel@pasglop>
2010-01-12 11:36         ` Rusty Russell
2009-12-23  6:39 ` [PATCH 00/31] virtio: console: Fixes, multiple devices and generic ports Rusty Russell
2009-12-23  6:44   ` Amit Shah

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