From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2] virtio: use smp_XX barriers on SMP
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:48:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100129134817.GA4256@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201001290744.59324.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 07:44:59AM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:07:08 am Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:01:09AM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:12:23 am Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > Where possible, we should use SMP barriers which are more lightweight than
> > > > mandatory barriers, because mandatory barriers also control MMIO effects on
> > > > accesses through relaxed memory I/O windows (which virtio does not use)
> > > > (compare specifically smp_rmb and rmb on x86_64).
> > >
> > > Xen had a similar issue, in that UP guests running on SMP hosts need to issue
> > > SMP barriers. Is this not also a requirement for virtio?
> >
> > Of course it is. That's why I have ifdef CONFIG_SMP and use
> > mandatory barriers on UP.
>
> Sorry, this was an off-the-cuff comment. I was concerned that UP barriers
> might be insufficient on some archs. But I can't find any such archs when
> I actually look (at least, x86, s390 and powerpc).
I see. Yes, smp barriers seem in practice to be a subset of mandatory
barriers. Maybe a documentation patch specifying this is in order.
> I've applied your patch, minus the first two substitutions:
>
> @@ -36,10 +54,10 @@
> panic("%s:in_use = %i\n", \
> (_vq)->vq.name, (_vq)->in_use); \
> (_vq)->in_use = __LINE__; \
> - mb(); \
> + virtio_mb(); \
> } while (0)
> #define END_USE(_vq) \
> - do { BUG_ON(!(_vq)->in_use); (_vq)->in_use = 0; mb(); } while(0)
> + do { BUG_ON(!(_vq)->in_use); (_vq)->in_use = 0; virtio_mb(); } while(0)
> #else
> #define BAD_RING(_vq, fmt, args...) \
> do { \
>
> These barriers are actually trying to make sure in_use is set in a timely
> manner (this is debug code). They're bogus AFAICT: if you don't have any
> other synchronization then you're in danger of nesting and you want to know.
> And barriers might change timing too much when DEBUG is defined.
>
> Thanks!
> Rusty.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-29 13:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-27 22:42 [PATCHv2] virtio: use smp_XX barriers on SMP Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 23:31 ` Rusty Russell
2010-01-28 13:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 21:14 ` Rusty Russell
2010-01-29 11:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-30 4:52 ` Rusty Russell
2010-01-29 13:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
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