From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
Wang Sheng-Hui <shhuiw@gmail.com>,
Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, penberg@kernel.org,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
avi@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 RFC] virtio-spec: flexible configuration layout
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:03:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111111130313.GA24184@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87aa83qoao.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:54:31PM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:57:28 +0200, Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 22:52 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 10:24:47PM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> > > > It'll be a bit harder deprecating it in the future.
> > >
> > > Harder than ... what ?
> >
> > Harder than allowing devices not to present it at all if new layout
> > config is used. Right now the simple implementation is to use MMIO for
> > config and device specific, and let it fallback to legacy for ISR and
> > notifications (and therefore, this is probably how everybody will
> > implement it), which means that when you do want to deprecate legacy,
> > there will be extra work to be done then, instead of doing it now.
>
> Indeed, I'd like to see two changes to your proposal:
>
> (1) It should be all or nothing. If a driver can find the virtio header
> capability, it should only use the capabilties. Otherwise, it
> should fall back to legacy. Your draft suggests a mix is possible;
> I prefer a clean failure (ie. one day don't present a BAR 0 *at
> all*, so ancient drivers just fail to load.).
> (2) There's no huge win in keeping the same layout. Let's make some
> cleanups. There are more users ahead of us then behind us (I
> hope!).
> But I think this is the right direction!
>
> Thanks,
> Rusty.
I'll do these changes, thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-11 13:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <87wrbkvh3v.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2011-11-01 11:45 ` [PULL] virtio Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-01 12:33 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-01 12:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-01 12:45 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-02 1:09 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <8739e7uy87.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2011-11-02 4:52 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-02 22:07 ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-02 23:31 ` [PATCH RFC] virtio-pci: flexible configuration layout Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 0:19 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-03 10:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 11:09 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-03 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 13:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 10:37 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-03 12:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 13:37 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-03 13:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 14:59 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-08 21:40 ` [PATCH RFC] virtio-spec: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-08 21:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:21 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 8:46 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 9:55 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1320828366.31056.16.camel@lappy>
2011-11-09 10:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:26 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 12:25 ` Pekka Enberg
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.02.1111091421570.4936@tux.localdomain>
2011-11-09 12:28 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 12:36 ` Pekka Enberg
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.02.1111091434230.4936@tux.localdomain>
2011-11-09 15:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 11:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 12:05 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1340021117.22848.3.camel@lappy>
2012-06-18 12:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 12:38 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 12:48 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 15:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 15:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20111109151954.GA25329@redhat.com>
2011-11-13 14:07 ` Ronen Hod
2011-11-13 20:40 ` Vadim Rozenfeld
[not found] ` <1320832502.31056.22.camel@lappy>
2011-11-09 10:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:20 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:47 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1320835653.3259.138.camel@hornet.cambridge.arm.com>
2011-11-09 10:55 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 11:06 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1320836793.3259.151.camel@hornet.cambridge.arm.com>
2011-11-09 11:39 ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-09 12:07 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 19:59 ` [PATCHv2 " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:24 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 20:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:57 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 21:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 21:13 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-10 8:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11 4:24 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <87aa83qoao.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2011-11-11 7:39 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-11 12:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11 13:06 ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-15 23:58 ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-16 7:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-16 8:17 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-16 9:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11 13:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-11-13 15:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 6:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-15 23:58 ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-16 7:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-10 12:24 ` [PATCHv3 " Michael S. Tsirkin
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