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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5 of 5] virtio: expose added descriptors immediately
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:18:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111116071838.GE5433@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871ut8q5mh.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:51:26AM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:56:06 +0200, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 11:03:13PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 06:12:53PM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > > A virtio driver does virtqueue_add_buf() multiple times before finally
> > > > calling virtqueue_kick(); previously we only exposed the added buffers
> > > > in the virtqueue_kick() call.  This means we don't need a memory
> > > > barrier in virtqueue_add_buf(), but it reduces concurrency as the
> > > > device (ie. host) can't see the buffers until the kick.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
> > > 
> > > In the past I played with a patch like this, but I didn't see a
> > > performance gain either way. Do you see any gain?
> > > 
> > > I'm a bit concerned that with this patch, a buggy driver that
> > > adds more than 2^16 descriptors without a kick
> > > would seem to work sometimes. Let's add WARN_ON(vq->num_added > (1 << 16))?
> > 
> > Thinking about it more - it might be tricky for drivers
> > to ensure this. add used to fail when vq is full, but now
> > driver might do get between add and notify:
> > 	lock
> > 	add_buf * N
> > 	prep
> > 	unlock
> > 	lock
> > 	get_buf * N
> > 	unlock
> > 	lock
> > 	add_buf
> > 	prep
> > 	unlock
> > 	notify
> > 
> > and since add was followed by get, this doesn't fail.
> 
> Right, the driver could, in theory, do:
>         add_buf()
>         if (!get_buf())
>                 notify()
> 
> But we don't allow that at the moment in our API: we insist on a notify
> occasionally.  Noone does this at the moment, so a WARN_ON is correct.
> 
> If you're just add_buf() without the get_buf() then add_buf() will fail
> already.
> 
> Here's my current variant:
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> --- a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> +++ b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> @@ -245,9 +245,19 @@ add_head:
>  
>  	/* Put entry in available array (but don't update avail->idx until they
>  	 * do sync). */
> -	avail = ((vq->vring.avail->idx + vq->num_added++) & (vq->vring.num-1));
> +	avail = (vq->vring.avail->idx & (vq->vring.num-1));
>  	vq->vring.avail->ring[avail] = head;
>  
> +	/* Descriptors and available array need to be set before we expose the
> +	 * new available array entries. */
> +	virtio_wmb();
> +	vq->vring.avail->idx++;
> +	vq->num_added++;
> +
> +	/* If you haven't kicked in this long, you're probably doing something
> +	 * wrong. */
> +	WARN_ON(vq->num_added > vq->vring.num);
> +
>  	pr_debug("Added buffer head %i to %p\n", head, vq);
>  	END_USE(vq);
>  
> It's hard to write a useful WARN_ON() for the "you should kick more
> regularly" case (we could take timestamps if DEBUG is defined, I guess),
> so let's leave this until someone actually trips it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rusty.

My unlocked kick patches will trip this warning: they make
virtio-net do add + get without kick.

I think block with unlocked kick can trip it too:
add, lock is dropped and then an interrupt can get.

We also don't need a kick each num - each 2^15 is enough.
Why don't we do this at start of add_buf:
if (vq->num_added >= 0x7fff)
	return -ENOSPC;

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-16  7:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <patchbomb.1320306168@localhost6.localdomain6>
2011-11-03  7:42 ` [PATCH 1 of 5] virtio: document functions better Rusty Russell
2011-11-03  7:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-03  7:42 ` [PATCH 2 of 5] virtio: rename virtqueue_add_buf_gfp to virtqueue_add_buf Rusty Russell
2011-11-03  7:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-03  7:42 ` [PATCH 3 of 5] virtio: support unlocked queue kick Rusty Russell
2011-11-03  7:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <20111103075211.GD6993@infradead.org>
2011-11-04 10:09     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-11-04 10:36     ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-03  7:42 ` [PATCH 4 of 5] virtio: avoid modulus operation Rusty Russell
2011-11-03  7:51   ` Pekka Enberg
     [not found]   ` <CAOJsxLEt6_y7jw0bRsaita4gfb2k+BAQMeRLs9PcHntGVSFvaQ@mail.gmail.com>
2011-11-03 10:18     ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-03  7:42 ` [PATCH 5 of 5] virtio: expose added descriptors immediately Rusty Russell
2011-11-13 21:03   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14  0:43     ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-14  6:56     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-16  0:21       ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-16  7:18         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-11-21  1:48           ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-21 11:57             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-22  0:33               ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-22  6:29                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-23  1:19                   ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-23  8:30                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-01  9:20   ` RFD: virtio balloon API use (was Re: [PATCH 5 of 5] virtio: expose added descriptors immediately) Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-02  1:05     ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-02  7:25       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-02 16:08         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-03  0:47           ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-03 16:26             ` Rafael Aquini
2012-07-04 10:55             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-08 23:39               ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-04 10:55           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-02  7:33       ` [PATCH RFC] virtio-balloon: fix add/get API use Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-04  3:27         ` Rusty Russell

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