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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Wang Sheng-Hui <shhuiw@gmail.com>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 RFC] virtio-pci: flexible configuration layout
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:41:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111128084009.GB20084@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vcq5t69c.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:25:43AM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > But I'm *terrified* of making the spec more complex;
> > 
> > All you do is move stuff around. Why do you think it simplifies the spec
> > so much?
> 
> No, but it reduces the yuk factor.  Which has been important to adoption.

Sorry if I'm dense. Could you please clarify: do you think we can live
with the slightly higher yuk factor assuming the spec moves the
legacy mode into an appendix as you explain below and driver has a
single 'legacy' switch?

> And that's *not* all I do: reducing the number of options definitely
> simplifies the spec.  For example, the spec should currently say
> (looking at your implementation):
> 
>   Notifying the device
>   ====================
>   If you find a valid VIRTIO_PCI_CAP_NOTIFY_CFG capability, and you can
>   map 2 bytes within it, those two bytes should be used to notify the
>   device of new descriptors in its virtqueues, by writing the index of the
>   virtqueue to that mapping.
> 
>   If the capability is missing or malformed or you cannot map it, the
>   virtqueue index should be written to the VIRTIO_PCI_QUEUE_NOTIFY offset
>   of the legacy bar.
> 
> Vs:
> 
>   Notifying the device
>   ====================
>   The index of the virtqueue containing new descriptors should be written
>   to the location specified by the VIRTIO_PCI_CAP_NOTIFY_CFG capability.
>   (Unless the device is in legacy mode, see Appendix Y: Legacy Mode).

Yes, I agree, this is better.

...

> Look, I try to be more inclusive and polite than Linus, but at some
> point more verbiage is wasted.
> We will have single Legacy Mode switch.

Sorry, I'm adding more verbiage :( 
When you say a single Legacy Mode switch, you mean that the driver will
assume either legacy layout or the new one, correct?

> Accept it, or fork the standard.
>
> If you want to reuse the same structure, we're going to need to figure
> out how to specify the virtqueue address without a fixed alignment, and
> how to specify the alignment itself.

I think I see a way to do that in a relatively painless way.
Do you prefer seeing driver patches or spec? Or are you not interested
in reusing the same structure at all?

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-28  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-22 18:36 [PATCHv3 RFC] virtio-pci: flexible configuration layout Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-23  2:32 ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-23  8:46   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-23 15:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-24  0:36     ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-24  6:24       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-24  7:11       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-28  0:55         ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-28  8:41           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-11-29 23:28             ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-30  7:18               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-28  9:15           ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-29 23:40             ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-30  8:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-30 13:12               ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-01  2:42                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-23  8:49   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-23  9:38     ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-24  1:07       ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-23  9:44   ` Sasha Levin

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