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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>
Cc: krkumar2@in.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	levinsasha928@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	bhutchings@solarflare.com
Subject: Re: [net-next RFC PATCH 5/5] virtio-net: flow director support
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:14:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111206161422.GA3245@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EDE37FE.5090409@us.ibm.com>

On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 07:42:54AM -0800, Sridhar Samudrala wrote:
> On 12/6/2011 5:15 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Jason Wang<jasowang@redhat.com>  wrote:
> >>On 12/06/2011 05:18 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>>On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Jason Wang<jasowang@redhat.com>    wrote:
> >>>>On 12/05/2011 06:55 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>>>>On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Jason Wang<jasowang@redhat.com>
> >>>>>  wrote:
> >>>The vcpus are just threads and may not be bound to physical CPUs, so
> >>>what is the big picture here?  Is the guest even in the position to
> >>>set the best queue mappings today?
> >>
> >>Not sure it could publish the best mapping but the idea is to make sure the
> >>packets of a flow were handled by the same guest vcpu and may be the same
> >>vhost thread in order to eliminate the packet reordering and lock
> >>contention. But this assumption does not take the bouncing of vhost or vcpu
> >>threads which would also affect the result.
> >Okay, this is why I'd like to know what the big picture here is.  What
> >solution are you proposing?  How are we going to have everything from
> >guest application, guest kernel, host threads, and host NIC driver
> >play along so we get the right steering up the entire stack.  I think
> >there needs to be an answer to that before changing virtio-net to add
> >any steering mechanism.
> >
> >
> Yes. Also the current model of  a vhost thread per VM's interface
> doesn't help with packet steering
> all the way from the guest to the host physical NIC.
> 
> I think we need to have vhost thread(s) per-CPU that can handle
> packets to/from physical NIC's
> TX/RX queues.
> Currently we have a single vhost thread for a VM's i/f
> that handles all the packets from
> various flows coming from a multi-queue physical NIC.
> 
> Thanks
> Sridhar

It's not hard to try that:
1. revert c23f3445e68e1db0e74099f264bc5ff5d55ebdeb
   this will convert our thread to a workqueue
2. convert the workqueue to a per-cpu one

It didn't work that well in the past, but YMMV

On the surface I'd say a single thread makes some sense
as long as guest uses a single queue.

-- 
MST

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-06 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-05  8:58 [net-next RFC PATCH 0/5] Series short description Jason Wang
2011-12-05  8:58 ` [net-next RFC PATCH 1/5] virtio_net: passing rxhash through vnet_hdr Jason Wang
2011-12-05  8:58 ` [net-next RFC PATCH 2/5] tuntap: simple flow director support Jason Wang
2011-12-05 10:38   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-05 20:09   ` Ben Hutchings
     [not found]   ` <1323115763.2887.12.camel@bwh-desktop>
2011-12-06  7:21     ` Jason Wang
2011-12-06 17:31       ` Ben Hutchings
2011-12-05  8:59 ` [net-next RFC PATCH 3/5] macvtap: " Jason Wang
2011-12-05 20:11   ` Ben Hutchings
2011-12-05  8:59 ` [net-next RFC PATCH 4/5] virtio: introduce a method to get the irq of a specific virtqueue Jason Wang
2011-12-05  8:59 ` [net-next RFC PATCH 5/5] virtio-net: flow director support Jason Wang
     [not found] ` <20111205085925.6116.94352.stgit@dhcp-8-146.nay.redhat.com>
2011-12-05 10:55   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-06  6:33     ` Jason Wang
2011-12-06  9:18       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]       ` <CAJSP0QX5dDkpX+cRcQut2mb6K91zeqGLRrZBGAWT_r2p685gaQ@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-06 10:21         ` Jason Wang
2011-12-06 13:15           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]           ` <CAJSP0QXsLwvH5xYj6h0E_V4VLg6DuUc-GKXu9esEYzL2MFcFGw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-06 15:42             ` Sridhar Samudrala
     [not found]             ` <4EDE37FE.5090409@us.ibm.com>
2011-12-06 16:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-12-06 23:10                 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2011-12-07 11:05                   ` Jason Wang
2011-12-07 11:02               ` Jason Wang
2011-12-09  2:00                 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2011-12-07  3:03             ` Jason Wang
2011-12-07  9:08               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-07 12:10                 ` Jason Wang
2011-12-07 15:04                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-05 20:42   ` Ben Hutchings
2011-12-06  7:25     ` Jason Wang
2011-12-06 17:36       ` Ben Hutchings
2011-12-07  7:30 ` [net-next RFC PATCH 0/5] Series short description Rusty Russell
     [not found] ` <87ty5cj0sw.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2011-12-07 11:31   ` Jason Wang
2011-12-07 17:02     ` Ben Hutchings
2011-12-08 10:06       ` Jason Wang
2011-12-09  5:31       ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-15  1:36         ` Ben Hutchings
2011-12-15 23:12           ` Rusty Russell

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