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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/11] RFC: PCI using capabilitities
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:47:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111211124703.GE11504@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1323358657.32487.9.camel@lappy>

On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 05:37:37PM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 20:52 +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > Here's the patch series I ended up with.  I haven't coded up the QEMU
> > side yet, so no idea if the new driver works.
> > 
> > Questions:
> > (1) Do we win from separating ISR, NOTIFY and COMMON?
> > (2) I used a "u8 bar"; should I use a bir and pack it instead?  BIR
> >     seems a little obscure (noone else in the kernel source seems to
> >     refer to it).
> 
> I started implementing it for KVM tools, when I noticed a strange thing:
> my vq creating was failing because the driver was reading a value other
> than 0 from the address field of a new vq, and failing.
> 
> I've added simple prints in the usermode code, and saw the following
> ordering:
> 
> 1. queue select vq 0
> 2. queue read address (returns 0 - new vq)
> 3. queue write address (good address of vq)
> 4. queue read address (returns !=0, fails)
> 4. queue select vq 1
> 
> >From that I understood that the ordering is wrong, the driver was trying
> to read address before selecting the correct vq.
> 
> At that point, I've added simple prints to the driver. Initially it
> looked as follows:
> 
> 	iowrite16(index, &vp_dev->common->queue_select);
> 
> 	switch (ioread64(&vp_dev->common->queue_address)) {
> 		[...]
> 	};
> 
> So I added prints before the iowrite16() and after the ioread64(), and
> saw that while the driver prints were ordered, the device ones weren't:
> 
> 	[    1.264052] before iowrite index=1
> 	kvmtool: net returning pfn (vq=0): 310706176
> 	kvmtool: queue selected: 1
> 	[    1.264890] after ioread index=1
> 
> Suspecting that something was wrong with ordering, I've added a print
> between the iowrite and the ioread, and it finally started working well.
> 
> Which leads me to the question: Are MMIO vs MMIO reads/writes not
> ordered?

First, I'd like to answer your questions from the PCI side.
Look for PCI rules in the PCI spec.
You will notices that a write is required to be able to
pass a read request. It might also pass read completion.
A read request will not pass a write request.
There's more or less no ordering between different types of transactions
(memory versus io/configuration).

That's wrt to the question you asked.

But this is not your setup: you have a single vcpu so
you will not initiate a write (select vq) until you get
a read completion.

So what you are really describing is this setup: guest reads a value,
gets the response, then writes out another one, and kvm tool reports the
write before the read.


> -- 
> 
> Sasha.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-11 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-08 10:22 [PATCH 0/11] RFC: PCI using capabilitities Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:30 ` [RFC 1/11] virtio: use u32, not bitmap for struct virtio_device's features Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:31 ` [RFC 2/11] virtio: add support for 64 bit features Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:32 ` [PATCH 0/11] RFC: PCI using capabilitities Sasha Levin
2011-12-08 10:32 ` [RFC 3/11] pci: add pci_iomap_range Rusty Russell
2011-12-15  8:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-16  1:56     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:34 ` [RFC 4/11] virtio-pci: define layout for virtio vendor-specific capabilities Rusty Russell
2011-12-10 21:14   ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-08 10:35 ` [RFC 6/11] virtio_pci: move old defines to legacy, introduce new structure Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:38 ` [RFC 6/11] virtio_pci: don't use the legacy driver if we find the new PCI capabilities Rusty Russell
2011-12-10 21:18   ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11  5:15     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-11  9:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-08 10:39 ` [RFC 7/11] virtio_pci: new, capability-aware driver Rusty Russell
2011-12-11  9:42   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-11 22:45     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-12 11:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-12 18:10         ` Don Dutile
2011-12-16  1:58           ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-28  7:56         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29  1:17           ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-29 10:21             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30  2:17               ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-12 18:25       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-13  2:21         ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-15  8:27           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-16  1:50             ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-18 10:18               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-19  6:06                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-19  9:13                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-19 11:08                     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-20 11:37                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-21  0:33                         ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-21  9:19                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-10 17:03                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11  0:25                             ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-11  1:48                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11  8:47                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11  9:10                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 14:28                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11 15:39                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 17:21                                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11 18:34                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 20:56                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 20:46                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12 10:37                                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11 10:21                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 21:13                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 22:13                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 22:19                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 22:56                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  5:29                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-12  6:13                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:37                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-12  2:01                                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-12  4:31                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:09                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-12  6:28                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:51                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-12  7:03                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:00                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-13  3:22                                     ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-11 13:30                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 15:12                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 15:15                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 15:21                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 15:28                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 15:45                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 16:02                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 17:08                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 19:42                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 20:14                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 20:26                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 21:02                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 22:02                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 22:16                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  1:42                                                         ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-13  2:19                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-13  2:32                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-18 15:29                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-22 22:53                                                                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-18  4:52                                                             ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-11 21:58                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 20:59                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 20:51                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 20:50                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  1:35                                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:40 ` [RFC 8/11] virtio_pci: share structure between legacy and modern Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:41 ` [RFC 9/11] virtio_pci: share interrupt/notify handlers " Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:42 ` [RFC 10/11] virtio_pci: share virtqueue setup/teardown between modern and legacy driver Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:44 ` [RFC 11/11] virtio_pci: simplify common helpers Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 15:37 ` [PATCH 0/11] RFC: PCI using capabilitities Sasha Levin
     [not found] ` <1323358657.32487.9.camel@lappy>
2011-12-09  6:17   ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-10 21:32     ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11  9:05   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-11 10:03     ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11 12:30       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-11 12:48         ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11 12:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-12-11 12:53     ` Sasha Levin

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