From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Subject: Re: [RFC 7/11] virtio_pci: new, capability-aware driver. Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:45:15 +0200 Message-ID: <20120111154515.GD20570@redhat.com> References: <871us0om2t.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <20111220113718.GF3913@redhat.com> <878vm6daqy.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <20120110170334.GA18404@redhat.com> <8762gj6q5r.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <4F0D8EFA.3010503@codemonkey.ws> <20120111151230.GA20570@redhat.com> <4F0DA7A5.7050600@codemonkey.ws> <20120111152129.GB20570@redhat.com> <4F0DAA9B.7060703@codemonkey.ws> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F0DAA9B.7060703@codemonkey.ws> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org Errors-To: virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Pawel Moll , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , virtualization , Christian Borntraeger , Sasha Levin List-Id: virtualization@lists.linuxfoundation.org On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:28:27AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > On 01/11/2012 09:21 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > >On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:15:49AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > >>>This is similar to what we have now. But it's still buggy: e.g. if guest > >>>updates MAC byte by byte, we have no way to know when it's done doing > >>>so. > >> > >>This is no different than a normal network card. You have to use a > >>secondary register to trigger an update. > >> > >>Regards, > >> > >>Anthony Liguori > > > >Possible but doesn't let us layer nicely to allow unchanged drivers > >that work with all transports (new pci, old pci, non pci). > > If we declare config space LE, then we have to touch all drivers. > There's no way around it because the virtio API is byte-based, not > word based. Fine but don't we want to be compatible with old hypervisors? > This is why I'm suggesting making the virtio API (and then the > virtio-pci ABI) word based. It gives us the flexibility to make > endianness a property of the transport and not a property of the > devices. > > Regards, > > Anthony Liguori Some fields are 64 bit, this is still tricky to do atomically. What's the objection to using a config VQ?