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From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Attilio Rao <attilio.rao@citrix.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Stephan Diestelhorst <stephan.diestelhorst@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:37:45 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120331040745.GC14030@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1203302333560.2542@ionos>

* Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> [2012-03-31 00:07:58]:

> I know that Peter is going to go berserk on me, but if we are running
> a paravirt guest then it's simple to provide a mechanism which allows
> the host (aka hypervisor) to check that in the guest just by looking
> at some global state.
> 
> So if a guest exits due to an external event it's easy to inspect the
> state of that guest and avoid to schedule away when it was interrupted
> in a spinlock held section. That guest/host shared state needs to be
> modified to indicate the guest to invoke an exit when the last nested
> lock has been released.

I had attempted something like that long back:

http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/6/3/4

The issue is with ticketlocks though. VCPUs could go into a spin w/o
a lock being held by anybody. Say VCPUs 1-99 try to grab a lock in
that order (on a host with one cpu). VCPU1 wins (after VCPU0 releases it)
and releases the lock. VCPU1 is next eligible to take the lock. If 
that is not scheduled early enough by host, then remaining vcpus would keep 
spinning (even though lock is technically not held by anybody) w/o making 
forward progress.

In that situation, what we really need is for the guest to hint to host
scheduler to schedule VCPU1 early (via yield_to or something similar). 

The current pv-spinlock patches however does not track which vcpu is
spinning at what head of the ticketlock. I suppose we can consider 
that optimization in future and see how much benefit it provides (over
plain yield/sleep the way its done now).

Do you see any issues if we take in what we have today and address the
finer-grained optimization as next step?

- vatsa 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-31  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-21 10:20 [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:20 ` [PATCH RFC V6 1/11] x86/spinlock: replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 13:04   ` Attilio Rao
     [not found]   ` <4F69D1D9.9080107@citrix.com>
2012-03-21 13:22     ` Stephan Diestelhorst
     [not found]     ` <2425963.NBpIGX9T40@chlor>
2012-03-21 13:49       ` Attilio Rao
     [not found]       ` <4F69DC68.6080200@citrix.com>
2012-03-21 14:25         ` Stephan Diestelhorst
     [not found]         ` <1363312.nixp29LUbv@chlor>
2012-03-21 14:33           ` Attilio Rao
     [not found]           ` <4F69E6BB.508@citrix.com>
2012-03-21 14:49             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 2/11] x86/ticketlock: don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 3/11] x86/ticketlock: collapse a layer of functions Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 4/11] xen: defer spinlock setup until boot CPU setup Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 5/11] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 6/11] xen/pvticketlocks: add xen_nopvspin parameter to disable xen pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 7/11] x86/pvticketlock: use callee-save for lock_spinning Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 8/11] x86/pvticketlock: when paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 9/11] x86/ticketlock: add slowpath logic Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 10/11] xen/pvticketlock: allow interrupts to be enabled while blocking Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 11/11] xen: enable PV ticketlocks on HVM Xen Raghavendra K T
     [not found] ` <20120321102107.473.89777.sendpatchset@codeblue.in.ibm.com>
2012-03-21 17:13   ` [PATCH RFC V6 2/11] x86/ticketlock: don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Linus Torvalds
2012-03-22 10:06     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-26 14:25 ` [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks Avi Kivity
2012-03-27  7:37   ` Raghavendra K T
     [not found]   ` <4F716E31.3000803@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2012-03-28 16:09     ` Alan Meadows
2012-03-28 18:21       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-29  9:58         ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-29 18:03           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-30 10:07             ` Raghavendra K T
     [not found]             ` <4F7585EE.7060203@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2012-04-01 13:18               ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:48                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-01 13:53                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:56                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02  9:51                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02  9:51                     ` Raghavendra K T
     [not found]                     ` <4F7976B6.5050000@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2012-04-02 12:15                       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05  9:01                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-05 10:40                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05  8:43                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-30 20:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-30 22:07   ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-30 22:18     ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-30 23:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-31  0:08         ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-31  8:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-31  4:07     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2012-03-31  4:09       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-04-16 15:44       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-16 16:36         ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-04-16 16:42           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-04-17  2:54           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-04-01 13:31     ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-02  9:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-05  9:15         ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-02  4:36     ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2012-04-02  9:42     ` Ian Campbell
2012-04-11  1:29     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-31  0:51   ` Raghavendra K T

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