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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio-net: fix a race on 32bit arches
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:17:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120606161715.GA17575@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1338995944.26966.6.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 05:19:04PM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 17:49 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 03:10:10PM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 14:13 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > 
> > > > We currently do all stats either on napi callback or from
> > > > start_xmit callback.
> > > > This makes them safe, yes?
> > > 
> > > Hmm, then _bh() variant is needed in virtnet_stats(), as explained in
> > > include/linux/u64_stats_sync.h section 6)
> > > 
> > >  * 6) If counter might be written by an interrupt, readers should block interrupts.
> > >  *    (On UP, there is no seqcount_t protection, a reader allowing interrupts could
> > >  *     read partial values)
> > > 
> > > Yes, its tricky...
> > 
> > Sounds good, but I have a question: this realies on counters
> > being atomic on 64 bit.
> > Would not it be better to always use a seqlock even on 64 bit?
> > This way counters would actually be correct and in sync.
> > As it is if we want e.g. average packet size,
> > we can not rely e.g. on it being bytes/packets.
> 
> When this stuff was discussed, we chose to have a nop on 64bits.
> 
> Your point has little to do with 64bit stats, it was already like that
> with 'long int' counters.

Yes, of course.

> Consider average driver doing :
> 
> dev->stats.rx_bytes += skb->len;
> dev->stats.rx_packets++;
> 
> A concurrent reader can read an updated rx_bytes and a 'previous'
> rx_packets one.
> 
> 'fixing' this requires a lot of work and memory barriers (in all
> drivers), for a very litle gain (at most one packet error)
> u64_stats_sync was really meant to be 0-cost on 64bit arches.
> 
> 

I understand, and not arguing about that.

But why do you say at most 1 packet?

Consider get_stats doing:
               u64_stats_update_begin(&stats->syncp);
               stats->tx_bytes += skb->len;

on 64 bit at this point
tx_packets might get incremented any number of times, no?

                stats->tx_packets++;
                u64_stats_update_end(&stats->syncp);

now tx_bytes and tx_packets are out of sync by more than 1.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-06 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-06  8:35 [PATCH] virtio-net: fix a race on 32bit arches Eric Dumazet
2012-06-06  8:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-06  9:37   ` Jason Wang
2012-06-06 11:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-06 13:10     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-06 14:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-06 15:14         ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-06-06 15:19         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-06 16:17           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-06-06 17:13             ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]             ` <1339002782.26966.22.camel@edumazet-glaptop>
2012-06-06 18:43               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-06 20:06                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-06 20:19                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-06 16:57           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-06 20:00             ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]         ` <20120606081432.6b602065@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net>
2012-06-06 18:51           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-06 19:54             ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]             ` <1339012441.26966.48.camel@edumazet-glaptop>
2012-06-06 19:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-06 20:08                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-06 20:16                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-06 20:24                     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-06 20:38                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-06 20:35                     ` Ben Hutchings
2012-06-06 20:43                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-06 20:19                   ` Ben Hutchings
     [not found]                   ` <1339013979.2836.52.camel@bwh-desktop.uk.solarflarecom.com>
2012-06-06 20:25                     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-10  6:36   ` Rusty Russell
2012-06-10  7:03     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 10:21       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-10 10:22         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-10 10:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-11  3:23   ` David Miller

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