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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/22] virtio_pci: use separate notification offsets for each vq.
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 20:02:46 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130403170246.GA25697@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fed0356e-3b76-4f79-b6b5-85f0d045be29@email.android.com>

On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 07:35:31AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> I mean no offset.

I see. Fine with me.

> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> >> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 04:40:29PM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> >> >> "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> writes:
> >> >> > On 03/29/2013 08:19 PM, Rusty Russell wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Shift count?
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> You can only have 2^16 vqs per device.  Is it verboten to write
> >> >16-bit
> >> >> >> values to odd offsets?  If so, we've just dropped it to 2^15
> >> >before you
> >> >> >> have to do some decoding to do.  Hard to care...
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> I dislike saying "multiply offset by 2" because implementations
> >> >will get
> >> >> >> it wrong.  That's because 0 will work either way, and that's
> >going
> >> >to be
> >> >> >> the common case.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The main reason to use a shift count is that it lets the guest
> >> >driver
> >> >> > assume that the spacing is a power of two, requiring only shift,
> >as
> >> >> > opposed to an arbitrary number, requiring a multiply.  It seems
> >> >unlikely
> >> >> > that there would be a legitimate reason for a non-power-of-two
> >> >spacing
> >> >> > between the VQ notifiers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The other reason is that if a particular host implementation
> >needs
> >> >> > separate pages for each notifier, that can be a pretty large
> >> >number.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Ah, sorry, we're talking across each other a bit.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Current proposal is a 16 bit 'offset' field in the queue data for
> >> >each
> >> >> queue, ie.
> >> >>         addr = dev->notify_base + vq->notify_off;
> >> >> 
> >> >> You propose a per-device 'shift' field:
> >> >>         addr = dev->notify_base + (vq->index <<
> >dev->notify_shift);
> >> >> 
> >> >> Which allows greater offsets, but insists on a unique offset per
> >> >queue.
> >> >> Might be a fair trade-off...
> >> >> 
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Rusty.
> >> >
> >> >Or even
> >> >       addr = dev->notify_base + (vq->notify_off <<
> >dev->notify_shift);
> >> >
> >> >since notify_base is per capability, shift can be per capability
> >too.
> >> >And for IO we can allow it to be 32 to mean "always use base".
> >> >
> >> >This is a bit more elegant than just saying "no offsets for IO".
> >> 
> >
> >On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 07:10:42AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> >> 0 should probably mean no shift;
> >
> >Sure. Note no shift is not same as "no offset".
> >
> >> that way we explicitly prohibit odd offsets, which is a good thing,
> >too.
> >
> >Odd offsets?
> >
> >> -- 
> >> Sent from my mobile phone. Please excuse brevity and lack of
> >formatting.
> 
> -- 
> Sent from my mobile phone. Please excuse brevity and lack of formatting.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-03 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-21  8:29 [PATCH 00/22] New virtio PCI layout Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 01/22] virtio_config: introduce size-based accessors Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 02/22] virtio_config: use " Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 03/22] virtio_config: make transports implement accessors Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  9:09   ` Cornelia Huck
2013-03-22  0:31     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-22  9:13       ` Cornelia Huck
2013-03-22 14:43   ` Sjur Brændeland
2013-03-24  4:24     ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-03 15:58       ` Sjur Brændeland
2013-04-02 17:16   ` Pawel Moll
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 04/22] virtio: use u32, not bitmap for struct virtio_device's features Rusty Russell
2013-03-21 10:00   ` Cornelia Huck
2013-03-22  0:48     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 05/22] virtio: add support for 64 bit features Rusty Russell
2013-03-21 10:06   ` Cornelia Huck
2013-03-22  0:50     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-22  9:15       ` Cornelia Huck
2013-03-22 14:50     ` Sjur Brændeland
2013-03-22 20:12       ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2013-03-25  8:30         ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-02 17:09   ` Pawel Moll
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 06/22] virtio: move vring structure into struct virtqueue Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 07/22] pci: add pci_iomap_range Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 08/22] virtio-pci: define layout for virtio vendor-specific capabilities Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 09/22] virtio_pci: move old defines to legacy, introduce new structure Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 10/22] virtio_pci: use _LEGACY_ defines in virtio_pci_legacy.c Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 11/22] virtio_pci: don't use the legacy driver if we find the new PCI capabilities Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 12/22] virtio_pci: allow duplicate capabilities Rusty Russell
2013-03-21 10:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 14:26     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 14:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 14:45         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 15:19           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 15:26             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 15:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 16:04                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 16:11                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 16:15                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 16:26                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 16:32                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 17:07                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:09                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 17:13                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:49                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:54                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-21 18:01                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-22  0:57                                     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-22  3:17                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-24 13:14                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-24 23:23                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-25  6:53                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-25  6:54                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-25 10:03                                               ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 13/22] virtio_pci: new, capability-aware driver Rusty Russell
2013-03-21 10:24   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-22  1:02     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-24 13:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 14/22] virtio_pci: layout changes as per hpa's suggestions Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 15/22] virtio_pci: use little endian for config space Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 16/22] virtio_pci: use separate notification offsets for each vq Rusty Russell
2013-03-21 10:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 10:35     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-22  2:52     ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-24 14:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-24 20:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-24 23:27         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-25  7:05           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-25 10:00         ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-26 19:39           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27  0:07             ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-27  0:22               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-27  2:31                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-27 11:26                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27 14:21                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-27 11:25               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-28  4:50                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-30  3:19                   ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-02 22:51                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-03  6:10                       ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-03 11:22                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-03 14:10                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-03 14:35                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-03 14:35                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-03 17:02                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-04-04  5:48                           ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-04  8:25                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-05  1:25                               ` Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 17/22] virtio_pci_legacy: cleanup struct virtio_pci_vq_info Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 18/22] virtio_pci: share structure between legacy and modern Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 19/22] virtio_pci: share interrupt/notify handlers " Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 20/22] virtio_pci: share virtqueue setup/teardown between modern and legacy driver Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 21/22] virtio_pci: simplify common helpers Rusty Russell
2013-03-21  8:29 ` [PATCH 22/22] virtio_pci: fix finalize_features in modern driver Rusty Russell

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