From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Greg Kurz <gkurz@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PULL] virtio/vhost: cross endian support
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:32:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150702112809-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150702111256.13f8ea71@bahia.local>
On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 11:12:56AM +0200, Greg Kurz wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 08:01:28 +0200
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 12:02:50PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > virtio/vhost: cross endian support
> > >
> > > Ugh. Does this really have to be dynamic?
> > >
> > > Can't virtio do the sane thing, and just use a _fixed_ endianness?
> > >
> > > Doing a unconditional byte swap is faster and simpler than the crazy
> > > conditionals. That's true regardless of endianness, but gets to be
> > > even more so if the fixed endianness is little-endian, since BE is
> > > not-so-slowly fading from the world.
> > >
> > > Linus
> >
> > Yea, well - support for legacy BE guests on the new LE hosts is
> > exactly the motivation for this.
> >
> > I dislike it too, but there are two redeeming properties that
> > made me merge this:
> >
> > 1. It's a trivial amount of code: since we wrap host/guest accesses
> > anyway, almost all of it is well hidden from drivers.
> >
> > 2. Sane platforms would never set flags like VHOST_CROSS_ENDIAN_LEGACY -
> > and when it's clear, there's zero overhead (as some point it was
> > tested by compiling with and without the patches, got the same
> > stripped binary).
> >
> > Maybe we could create a Kconfig symbol to enforce point (2): prevent
> > people from enabling it e.g. on x86. I will look into this - but it can
> > be done by a patch on top, so I think this can be merged as is.
> >
>
> This cross-endian *oddity* is targeting PowerPC book3s_64 processors... I
> am not aware of any other users. Maybe create a symbol that would
> be only selected by PPC_BOOK3S_64 ?
I think some ARM systems are trying to support cross-endian
configurations as well.
Besides that, yes, this is more or less what I had in mind.
>
> > Or do you know of someone using kernel with all config options enabled
> > undiscriminately?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20150701113150-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>
2015-07-01 19:02 ` [PULL] virtio/vhost: cross endian support Linus Torvalds
2015-07-01 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-02 6:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-02 6:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-02 9:12 ` Greg Kurz
2015-07-02 9:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2015-07-07 16:36 ` Thomas Huth
[not found] ` <20150707183653.462b5df0@thh440s>
2015-07-07 16:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-09 7:49 ` [PATCH] KVM: Add Kconfig option to signal cross-endian guests Thomas Huth
[not found] ` <1436428145-29823-1-git-send-email-thuth@redhat.com>
2015-07-09 9:48 ` Laurent Vivier
2015-07-09 10:02 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-07-09 12:21 ` Cornelia Huck
[not found] ` <559E435E.9050608@redhat.com>
2015-07-09 12:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-09 13:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-09 18:59 ` Thomas Huth
2015-07-13 9:24 ` Greg Kurz
2015-07-03 7:59 ` [PULL] virtio/vhost: cross endian support Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20150703095637-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>
2015-07-03 22:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-01 9:31 Michael S. Tsirkin
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