From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Ilya Lesokhin <ilyal@mellanox.com>
Cc: "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: packed ring layout proposal v3
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 16:21:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171029162117-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM4PR0501MB2723177BF4E5EE32CC878E8CD4580@AM4PR0501MB2723.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
If you do this whats the point of the id? Just use descriptor offset
like virtio 0 did.
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 09:05:01AM +0000, Ilya Lesokhin wrote:
> My point was that if the driver is not required to change the IDs,
> it can initialized the ID's in all the descriptors when the ring is created
> and never write the ID field again.
>
> A simple allocator for the IDs can solve the problem I presented but it is still more
> expensive then not doing ID allocation at all.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin [mailto:mst@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:20 PM
> > To: Ilya Lesokhin <ilyal@mellanox.com>
> > Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org; virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
> > Subject: Re: packed ring layout proposal v3
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 06:16:44AM +0000, Ilya Lesokhin wrote:
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org
> > > > > [mailto:virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org] On
> > > > > Behalf Of Michael S. Tsirkin
> > > > >
> > > > > This is an update from v2 version.
> > > >> ...
> > > > > When driver descriptors are chained in this way, multiple
> > > > > descriptors are treated as a part of a single transaction
> > > > > containing an optional write buffer followed by an optional read buffer.
> > > > > All descriptors in the chain must have the same ID.
> > > > >
> > >
> > > I apologize for the repost, I didn't realize I have to be a member of
> > > the virtio-dev mailing list.
> > >
> > > I'm concerned about the "same ID" requirement in chained descriptors.
> >
> > It's there really just so we can remove the doubt about which descriptor's ID
> > should be used. My testing does not show a performance win from this, so I'm
> > fine with removing this requirement though I'd be curious to know why is it a
> > problem.
> >
> > > Assuming out of order execution, how is the driver supposed to
> > > re-assign unique IDs to the previously chained descriptor?
> >
> > For example, driver can have a simple allocator for the IDs.
> >
> >
> > > Is the driver expected to copy original IDs somewhere else before the
> > > chaining and then restore the IDs after the chain is executed?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ilya
> >
> > As device overwrites the ID, driver will have to write it out each time, that's true.
> > It's going to be a requirement even if descriptors on the chain do not need to
> > have the same ID.
> >
> > --
> > MST
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20160915223915.qjlnlvf2w7u37bu3@redhat.com>
2017-02-08 13:37 ` packed ring layout proposal v2 Christian Borntraeger
2017-02-09 17:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20170209181955-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-02-09 18:27 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-02-08 17:41 ` [virtio-dev] " Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-08 19:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20170208214435-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-02-09 15:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-09 16:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-02-09 18:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20170209202203-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-02-10 11:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <c229269b-1702-ffec-62e8-002c7c142904@redhat.com>
2017-02-10 15:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-02-10 16:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <20170209171105.075a9d9c.cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
2017-02-22 16:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20170222181333-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-03-07 15:53 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-03-07 20:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20170307223057-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-07-10 16:27 ` Amnon Ilan
2017-02-22 4:27 ` packed ring layout proposal - todo list Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-02-22 14:46 ` [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v2 Chien, Roger S
[not found] ` <20170222054336-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-02-22 9:19 ` [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal - todo list Gray, Mark D
[not found] ` <738D45BC1F695740A983F43CFE1B7EA94E93CA7E@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com>
2017-02-22 15:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-02-28 4:29 ` Yuanhan Liu
[not found] ` <20170228042943.GH18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-01 1:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-08 7:09 ` Yuanhan Liu
[not found] ` <20170308070948.GC18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-08 7:56 ` Yuanhan Liu
[not found] ` <20170308075624.GF18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-29 12:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-04-01 7:30 ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-02-28 5:02 ` [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v2 Yuanhan Liu
2017-02-28 5:47 ` [RFC] packed (virtio-net) headers Yuanhan Liu
[not found] ` <20170228050218.GI18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-01 1:02 ` [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v2 Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20170301024951-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-03-01 3:57 ` Yuanhan Liu
[not found] ` <20170301035715.GP18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-01 4:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-01 4:57 ` Yuanhan Liu
[not found] ` <20170228054719.GJ18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-01 1:28 ` [RFC] packed (virtio-net) headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-16 6:00 ` [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v2 Lior Narkis
[not found] ` <DB5PR05MB176690DF180908ABCDDA0860D3A30@DB5PR05MB1766.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
2017-07-18 16:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-19 7:41 ` Lior Narkis
[not found] ` <DB5PR05MB1766461893DB3FE20D338B96D3A60@DB5PR05MB1766.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
2017-07-20 13:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-11 7:47 ` packed ring layout proposal v3 Jason Wang
2017-09-12 16:20 ` [virtio-dev] " Willem de Bruijn
[not found] ` <0f0e1b94-2a46-689c-dbb3-0d578cc8df33@redhat.com>
2017-09-12 16:23 ` [virtio-dev] " Willem de Bruijn
[not found] ` <CAF=yD-+LtZO=Fcw6Y-v0dnxkmwqW1+CqzopyQEApOjOAszgqMg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-09-13 1:26 ` Jason Wang
2017-09-14 8:23 ` Ilya Lesokhin
2017-09-20 9:11 ` [virtio-dev] " Liang, Cunming
2017-09-25 22:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20170926011826-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-09-26 23:38 ` Steven Luong (sluong)
[not found] ` <7A0DC0C9-F148-4161-B2D1-8D8D14D8B9A1@cisco.com>
2017-09-27 23:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-28 9:44 ` Liang, Cunming
2017-09-28 21:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <D0158A423229094DA7ABF71CF2FA0DA34E1AD49B@SHSMSX152.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2017-10-01 4:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-04 12:39 ` Jens Freimann
2017-10-04 12:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20171004155532-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-10-10 9:56 ` Liang, Cunming
[not found] ` <D0158A423229094DA7ABF71CF2FA0DA34E7DE4D3@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2017-10-11 12:22 ` Jens Freimann
2017-09-21 13:36 ` Liang, Cunming
2017-09-28 21:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-08 6:16 ` Ilya Lesokhin
[not found] ` <AM4PR0501MB27236B71E1B02176F1844ACBD4770@AM4PR0501MB2723.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
2017-10-25 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-29 9:05 ` Ilya Lesokhin
[not found] ` <AM4PR0501MB2723177BF4E5EE32CC878E8CD4580@AM4PR0501MB2723.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
2017-10-29 14:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-10-29 14:34 ` Ilya Lesokhin
[not found] ` <AM4PR0501MB272332C92A384C97D6975D8DD4580@AM4PR0501MB2723.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
2017-10-30 2:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-30 6:30 ` Ilya Lesokhin
[not found] ` <AM4PR0501MB27233D93937CA1F2E5AD13DBD4590@AM4PR0501MB2723.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
2017-10-30 16:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-10 5:06 Michael S. Tsirkin
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