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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com, Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>,
	"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Siwei Liu <loseweigh@gmail.com>,
	Venu Busireddy <venu.busireddy@oracle.com>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, aaron.f.brown@intel.com,
	Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY feature bit to virtio_net
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 11:53:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180620115359.1a3bf6fb.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180619233001-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 23:32:06 +0300
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:54:53PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > Sorry about dragging mainframes into this, but this will only work for
> > homogenous device coupling, not for heterogenous. Consider my vfio-pci
> > + virtio-net-ccw example again: The guest cannot find out that the two
> > belong together by checking some group ID, it has to either use the MAC
> > or some needs-to-be-architectured property.
> > 
> > Alternatively, we could propose that mechanism as pci-only, which means
> > we can rely on mechanisms that won't necessarily work on non-pci
> > transports. (FWIW, I don't see a use case for using vfio-ccw to pass
> > through a network card anytime in the near future, due to the nature of
> > network cards currently in use on s390.)  
> 
> That's what it boils down to, yes.  If there's need to have this for
> non-pci devices, then we should put it in config space.
> Cornelia, what do you think?
> 

I think the only really useful config on s390 is the vfio-pci network
card coupled with a virtio-net-ccw device: Using an s390 network card
via vfio-ccw is out due to the nature of the s390 network cards, and
virtio-ccw is the default transport (virtio-pci is not supported on any
enterprise distro AFAIK).

For this, having a uuid in the config space could work (vfio-pci
devices have a config space by virtue of being pci devices, and
virtio-net-ccw devices have a config space by virtue of being virtio
devices -- ccw devices usually don't have that concept).

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-20  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1525734594-11134-1-git-send-email-sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>
2018-06-05  1:41 ` [PATCH] qemu: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY feature bit to virtio_net Samudrala, Sridhar
     [not found] ` <fcefe501-b410-f1ec-829c-68199edcdbef@intel.com>
2018-06-05  2:06   ` Jason Wang
2018-06-06 18:17     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-06 18:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]       ` <20180606185214.GH6767@dnr>
2018-06-06 19:39         ` [libvirt] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-05 12:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]   ` <20180605152344-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-05 20:20     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-05 20:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 21:16     ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-06-05 21:32       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 22:09         ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-12 11:47           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]           ` <20180612143554-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-14  0:56             ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-06  2:29     ` Jason Wang
2018-06-12 11:54       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13  0:20         ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-13  2:38         ` Jason Wang
2018-06-13  4:24           ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-13  5:40             ` Jason Wang
2018-06-21 18:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22  1:07                 ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu
2018-06-22  2:30                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 19:43                     ` Siwei Liu
     [not found]                     ` <CADGSJ210d358_uyNK9LLw9gpP5uXK6T0h=9mR9ryG7ySkVqvkA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-22 21:47                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 22:25                         ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 22:28                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <7aa6dbe7-bac2-96f6-d96c-f51e5173c556@intel.com>
2018-06-13  2:41           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Wang
2018-06-11 17:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found] ` <20180611202207-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-12  1:54   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Wang
     [not found]   ` <dc8b1669-b8b6-fb59-94e2-6e4de6b96572@redhat.com>
2018-06-12  2:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]     ` <20180612051432-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-12  5:02       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-12 11:34         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13  0:08           ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-06-14  1:02             ` Siwei Liu
     [not found]             ` <CADGSJ213f8tJpNXuOhv8qRew-Y5VZAwA+srNMrLZYnKdVGLdAA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-14 10:02               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-14 12:50               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]               ` <20180614120231.0a72bd5f.cohuck@redhat.com>
2018-06-15  1:57                 ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-15 11:48                   ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]                   ` <20180615134815.6613620e.cohuck@redhat.com>
2018-06-15 17:06                     ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-19 10:54                       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-19 20:09                         ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-19 20:32                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                         ` <20180619233001-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-20  9:53                           ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2018-06-20 14:11                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-20 16:06                               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-20 19:48                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                 ` <20180620224535-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-21 14:59                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-21 18:20                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22  1:21                                     ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22  2:32                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                       ` <20180622053141-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-22 20:00                                         ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 20:03                                           ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 21:29                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                             ` <20180623002628-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-22 21:51                                               ` Siwei Liu
     [not found]                                               ` <CADGSJ20td7b6He6S1PBSJjCq=bNvgqMGbOjiho2eeQm2pgpK3g@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-22 22:25                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                                 ` <20180623012406-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-22 23:40                                                   ` Siwei Liu
     [not found]                                                   ` <CADGSJ211pWKYnuuzcgUqJZiHU+=7H3oQSpp1TnE=+EBjkdmCSQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-23  0:17                                                     ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-24  1:45                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-25 17:54                                                       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
     [not found]                                                       ` <da144f8f-65cd-45d9-3c81-6c8ca1fb25fe@intel.com>
2018-06-26  1:50                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-26 15:17                                                           ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]                                                           ` <20180626171732.5038f53f.cohuck@redhat.com>
2018-06-26 15:38                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                                             ` <20180626183706-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-26 16:03                                                               ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]                                                               ` <20180626180316.3723422f.cohuck@redhat.com>
2018-06-26 17:42                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-26 23:38                                                           ` Siwei Liu
     [not found]                                                           ` <CADGSJ204fgdnafRsrzMVh+SeBCj3-z_twS9B+7g8iiOaUQGW5g@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-27  0:29                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                                             ` <20180627032825-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-27  6:21                                                               ` Siwei Liu
     [not found]                                                               ` <CADGSJ22Sv_AFUkDou6hdq9++RNC40BTB-puS9209tOqzGLFJ-g@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-27  6:49                                                                 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
     [not found]                                                                 ` <19654612-a321-2ce9-9c1c-bcbae3a10e2f@intel.com>
2018-06-27  7:03                                                                   ` Siwei Liu
     [not found]                                     ` <20180621211712-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-22 15:09                                       ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]                                       ` <20180622170955.298900c1.cohuck@redhat.com>
2018-06-22 19:05                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                         ` <20180622214259-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-22 20:21                                           ` Siwei Liu
     [not found]                                           ` <CADGSJ22e=Sa8S-HqM4XtOa6ngBKPL73SiQRPh8PUzQgRaie5oA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-22 21:32                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                             ` <20180623003022-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-22 21:57                                               ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-22 22:33                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-23  0:05                                                   ` Siwei Liu
     [not found]                                                   ` <CADGSJ21HNd4VYNcCt4H0gJ_CCx1GUFpHrDof2N=4WqhD24Zc2A@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-26 15:08                                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26 17:50                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-27  9:11                                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-25  9:55                                           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26  1:46                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                             ` <20180626043839-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-26 11:55                                               ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]                                               ` <20180626135509.23154723.cohuck@redhat.com>
2018-06-26 13:54                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-22 21:43                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                         ` <20180623003545-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-27 10:10                                           ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]                         ` <CADGSJ20wrF418-WVev6OjaeShZWE488uxRwgaZmsjOHZr8jyOw@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-20 14:34                           ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]                           ` <20180620163408.737af8c2.cohuck@redhat.com>
2018-06-20 19:59                             ` Siwei Liu
2018-06-15  2:34                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-15  9:32                   ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]                   ` <20180615113242.799974f6.cohuck@redhat.com>
2018-06-15 12:31                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                     ` <20180615152926-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2018-06-18 13:27                       ` Cornelia Huck

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