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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.ibm.com>,
	Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@linux.ibm.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 05/12] s390/cio: add protected virtualization support to cio
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 10:25:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190410102557.1ba89d96.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190410021044.4da3e847@oc2783563651>

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 02:10:44 +0200
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 19:55:48 +0200
> Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri,  5 Apr 2019 01:16:15 +0200
> > Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> > > Thus we need to make sure any memory that is used for communication with
> > > the hypervisor is shared.  
> > 
> > In this context, does 'hypervisor' always mean 'QEMU/KVM'? If Other
> > Hypervisors implement protected virtualization, we probably need to
> > make sure that all common I/O layer control blocks are in the dma area
> > (including e.g. QDIO), not just what virtio-ccw devices use.
> >   
> 
> Hypervisor could theoretically be something different than QEMU/KVM. Yet,
> as stated before, this series is about getting virtio-ccw working
> (modulo the TODOs). 

Sure, just wanted to point it out. If this is "enable the common I/O
layer, except for QDIO" or so, that would sound fine to me :)

> 
> [..]
> 
> > >    
> > 
> > So, this leaves some things I'm not sure about, especially as I do not
> > know the architecture of this new feature.
> > 
> > - This applies only to asynchronously handled things, it seems? So
> >   things like control blocks modified by stsch/msch/etc does not need
> >   special treatment?  
> 
> I had a feeble attempt at explaining this in the cover letter:
> 
> * make sure that virtio-ccw specific stuff uses shared memory when
>   talking to the hypervisor (except communication blocks like ORB, these
>   are handled by the hypervisor)
> 
> Unfortunately the last 'hypervisor' was supposed to be 'ultravisor'.
> 
> I.e. the ultravisor will take care of exposing the control blocks
> to the hypervisor (and of changes as well).

Yeah, that "control blocks" or "communication blocks" leaves me a bit
fuzzy :)

So, what is a high-level summary of areas that need the treatment?
What I get from looking at the patches so far, it's:
- stuff that is written by the hypervisor's interrupt injection code:
  IRB, indicators, etc.
- buffers that are filled by a channel program: sense, sense id, etc.
- ccws themselves (because of translation?)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-10  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190404231622.52531-1-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-2-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-08 11:01   ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] virtio/s390: use vring_create_virtqueue Cornelia Huck
2019-04-08 12:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-3-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-09  9:57   ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] virtio/s390: DMA support for virtio-ccw Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190409132927.5df3bc50@oc2783563651>
2019-04-09 13:01       ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]         ` <20190409152313.0296e8f1@oc2783563651>
2019-04-09 15:47           ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-4-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-09 10:16   ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] s390/mm: force swiotlb for protected virtualization Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190409125416.73713f23@oc2783563651>
2019-04-09 17:18       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-09 12:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-5-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-09 10:44   ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] s390/cio: introduce cio DMA pool Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190409141114.7dcce94a@oc2783563651>
2019-04-09 17:14       ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]         ` <20190410173148.067555dc@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10 16:07           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-11 18:25   ` Sebastian Ott
     [not found]     ` <20190412132010.3c74cb63@oc2783563651>
2019-04-12 12:12       ` Sebastian Ott
     [not found]         ` <20190412173017.04b768bb@oc2783563651>
2019-04-16 12:50           ` Sebastian Ott
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-6-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-09 17:55   ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] s390/cio: add protected virtualization support to cio Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190410021044.4da3e847@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10  8:25       ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
     [not found]         ` <20190410150225.61b86cd9@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10 16:16           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-11 14:15   ` Sebastian Ott
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-8-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-10  8:42   ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] virtio/s390: use DMA memory for ccw I/O Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190410164245.53f8b26d@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10 16:21       ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-11-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-10  8:46   ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] virtio/s390: consolidate DMA allocations Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190410171254.71206015@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10 16:36       ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]         ` <20190410194849.511ecc46@oc2783563651>
2019-04-11  9:24           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-10  9:20 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] s390: virtio: support protected virtualization Cornelia Huck
     [not found]   ` <20190410175750.0ed0a454@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10 16:24     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-12 13:47 ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]   ` <20190416131005.6f3e05eb@oc2783563651>
2019-04-16 11:50     ` David Hildenbrand

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