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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.ibm.com>,
	Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@linux.ibm.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/12] s390: virtio: support protected virtualization
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 11:20:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190410112048.154c96fc.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190404231622.52531-1-pasic@linux.ibm.com>

On Fri,  5 Apr 2019 01:16:10 +0200
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> Enhanced virtualization protection technology may require the use of
> bounce buffers for I/O. While support for this was built into the virtio
> core,  virtio-ccw wasn't changed accordingly.
> 
> Thus what needs to be done to bring virtio-ccw up to speed with respect
> to this is:
> * use some 'new' common virtio stuff
> * make sure that virtio-ccw specific stuff uses shared memory when
>   talking to the hypervisor (except communication blocks like ORB, these
>   are handled by the hypervisor)
> * make sure the DMA API does what is necessary to talk through shared
>   memory if we are a protected virtualization guest.
> * make sure the common IO layer plays along as well (airqs, sense).

It would be good to have a summary somewhere in the code (or
Documentation/) as to what needs the dma treatment and what doesn't,
for later reference. We don't want people to accidentally break things
(especially if they cannot refer to architecture documentation - or
will at least some of that be published?)

> 
> The series is structured in incremental fashion: some of the changes are
> overridden by following patches. The main reason why is that this is how I
> developed. But I think it ain't bad for the didactic and we are a bit more
> flexible with regards to throwing out some of the stuff in the end.

FWIW, I think reshuffling the patches in the next iteration would ease
review.

> 
> Important notes:
> 
> * This is an early (WIP) RFC that does not add any function to the
>   kernel at his stage, as the ultravisor interactions are left out.
>   The purpose is getting some early feedback ASAP.

I would like some comments from people who have experience with the dma
api.

> 
> * In future these patches will depend on some code interacting with the
>   ultravisor (WIP by Vasily and Janosch).
> 
> * The s390 names are by no means final, and are not properly explained. Should
>   not hamper understanding too much. If it does please ask.
> 
> * The existing naming in the common infrastructure (kernel internal
>   interfaces) is pretty much based on the AMD SEV terminology. Thus the
>   names aren't always perfect. There might be merit to changing these
>   names to more abstract ones. I did not put much thought into that at
>   the current stage.

If we can find some generic names that work well for everyone,
converting seems like a good idea. But following SEV is not that bad,
either (you'll probably find more people who have heard about SEV than
folks familiar with s390 ;)

> 
> 
> Testing:
> 
> Please use iommu_platform=on for any virtio devices you are going
> to test this code with (so virtio actually uses the DMA API).
> 
> Looking forward to your review or any other type of input.

I have now read through the whole series and commented in some places.
But I'd really like to see comments from others as well.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-10  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190404231622.52531-1-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-2-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-08 11:01   ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] virtio/s390: use vring_create_virtqueue Cornelia Huck
2019-04-08 12:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-3-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-09  9:57   ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] virtio/s390: DMA support for virtio-ccw Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190409132927.5df3bc50@oc2783563651>
2019-04-09 13:01       ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]         ` <20190409152313.0296e8f1@oc2783563651>
2019-04-09 15:47           ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-4-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-09 10:16   ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] s390/mm: force swiotlb for protected virtualization Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190409125416.73713f23@oc2783563651>
2019-04-09 17:18       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-09 12:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-6-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-09 17:55   ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] s390/cio: add protected virtualization support to cio Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190410021044.4da3e847@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10  8:25       ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]         ` <20190410150225.61b86cd9@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10 16:16           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-11 14:15   ` Sebastian Ott
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-8-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-10  8:42   ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] virtio/s390: use DMA memory for ccw I/O Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190410164245.53f8b26d@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10 16:21       ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-11-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-10  8:46   ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] virtio/s390: consolidate DMA allocations Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190410171254.71206015@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10 16:36       ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]         ` <20190410194849.511ecc46@oc2783563651>
2019-04-11  9:24           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-10  9:20 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
     [not found]   ` <20190410175750.0ed0a454@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10 16:24     ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] s390: virtio: support protected virtualization Cornelia Huck
     [not found] ` <20190404231622.52531-5-pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2019-04-09 10:44   ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] s390/cio: introduce cio DMA pool Cornelia Huck
     [not found]     ` <20190409141114.7dcce94a@oc2783563651>
2019-04-09 17:14       ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]         ` <20190410173148.067555dc@oc2783563651>
2019-04-10 16:07           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-11 18:25   ` Sebastian Ott
     [not found]     ` <20190412132010.3c74cb63@oc2783563651>
2019-04-12 12:12       ` Sebastian Ott
     [not found]         ` <20190412173017.04b768bb@oc2783563651>
2019-04-16 12:50           ` Sebastian Ott
2019-04-12 13:47 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] s390: virtio: support protected virtualization David Hildenbrand
     [not found]   ` <20190416131005.6f3e05eb@oc2783563651>
2019-04-16 11:50     ` David Hildenbrand

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