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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Mike Christie <michael.christie@oracle.com>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, brauner@kernel.org, mst@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux@leemhuis.info,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	stefanha@redhat.com, nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [CFT][PATCH v3] fork, vhost: Use CLONE_THREAD to fix freezer/ps regression
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 21:39:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230606193907.GB18866@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39f5913c-e658-e476-0378-62236bb4ed49@oracle.com>

On 06/06, Mike Christie wrote:
>
> On 6/6/23 7:16 AM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 06/05, Mike Christie wrote:
> >
> >> So it works like if we were using a kthread still:
> >>
> >> 1. Userapce thread0 opens /dev/vhost-$something.
> >> 2. thread0 does VHOST_SET_OWNER ioctl. This calls vhost_task_create() to
> >> create the task_struct which runs the vhost_worker() function which handles
> >> the work->fns.
> >> 3. If userspace now does a SIGKILL or just exits without doing a close() on
> >> /dev/vhost-$something, then when thread0 does exit_files() that will do the
> >> fput that does vhost-$something's file_operations->release.
> >
> > So, at least in this simple case vhost_worker() can just exit after SIGKILL,
> > and thread0 can flush the outstanding commands when it calls vhost_dev_flush()
> > rather than wait for vhost_worker().
> >
> > Right?
>
> With the current code, the answer is no. We would hang like I mentioned here:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/ae250076-7d55-c407-1066-86b37014c69c@oracle.com/

If only I could fully understand this email ;)

Could you spell to explain why this can't work (again, in this simple case) ?

My current (and I know, very poor) understanding is that .release() should
roughly do the following:

	1. Ensure that vhost_work_queue() can't add the new callbacks

	2. Call vhost_dev_flush() to ensure that worker->work_list is empty

	3. Call vhost_task_stop()

so why this sequence can't work if we turn vhost_dev_flush() into something like

	void vhost_dev_flush(struct vhost_dev *dev)
	{
		struct vhost_flush_struct flush;

		if (dev->worker) {
			// this assumes that vhost_task_create() uses CLONE_THREAD
			if (same_thread_group(current, dev->worker->vtsk->task)) {
				... run the pending callbacks ...
				return;
			}


			// this is what we currently have

			init_completion(&flush.wait_event);
			vhost_work_init(&flush.work, vhost_flush_work);

			vhost_work_queue(dev, &flush.work);
			wait_for_completion(&flush.wait_event);
		}
	}

?

Mike, I am just trying to understand what exactly vhost_worker() should do.

> We need to add code like I mentioned in that reply because we don't have a
> way to call into the layers below us to flush those commands.

This tells me nothing, but this is my fault, not yours. Again, again, I know
nothing about drivers/vhost.

Oleg.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-06 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-01 18:32 [PATCH 1/1] fork, vhost: Use CLONE_THREAD to fix freezer/ps regression Mike Christie
2023-06-01 19:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-02  0:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-06-02 19:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-03  3:44   ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-06-05 13:26     ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-03  4:15   ` [CFT][PATCH v3] " Eric W. Biederman
2023-06-04  3:28     ` michael.christie
2023-06-05 15:10       ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-05 15:46         ` Mike Christie
2023-06-06 12:16           ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-06 15:57             ` Mike Christie
2023-06-06 19:39               ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2023-06-06 20:38                 ` Mike Christie
2023-06-14  6:02                   ` Can vhost translate to io_uring? Eric W. Biederman
2023-06-14  6:25                     ` michael.christie
2023-06-14 14:30                       ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-14 17:59                       ` Mike Christie
2023-06-14 14:20                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-14 15:02                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-11 20:27                 ` [CFT][PATCH v3] fork, vhost: Use CLONE_THREAD to fix freezer/ps regression Eric W. Biederman
2023-06-14 17:08                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-05 12:38     ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-05 13:48 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov

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