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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Feng Liu <feliu@nvidia.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, leonro@nvidia.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, jgg@nvidia.com,
	jiri@nvidia.com, maorg@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH vfio 01/11] virtio-pci: Use virtio pci device layer vq info instead of generic one
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:24:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230927171859-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39d8a0a5-4365-4ced-cac1-bef2bc8d6367@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 02:09:43PM -0400, Feng Liu wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2023-09-26 p.m.3:13, Feng Liu via Virtualization wrote:
> > External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
> > 
> > 
> > On 2023-09-21 a.m.9:46, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 03:40:30PM +0300, Yishai Hadas wrote:
> > > > From: Feng Liu <feliu@nvidia.com>
> > > > 
> 
> > > > pci_irq_vector(vp_dev->pci_dev, v);
> > > > @@ -294,6 +298,7 @@ static int vp_find_vqs_msix(struct
> > > > virtio_device *vdev, unsigned int nvqs,
> > > >        vp_dev->vqs = kcalloc(nvqs, sizeof(*vp_dev->vqs), GFP_KERNEL);
> > > >        if (!vp_dev->vqs)
> > > >                return -ENOMEM;
> > > > +     vp_dev->nvqs = nvqs;
> > > > 
> > > >        if (per_vq_vectors) {
> > > >                /* Best option: one for change interrupt, one per vq. */
> > > > @@ -365,6 +370,7 @@ static int vp_find_vqs_intx(struct
> > > > virtio_device *vdev, unsigned int nvqs,
> > > >        vp_dev->vqs = kcalloc(nvqs, sizeof(*vp_dev->vqs), GFP_KERNEL);
> > > >        if (!vp_dev->vqs)
> > > >                return -ENOMEM;
> > > > +     vp_dev->nvqs = nvqs;
> > > > 
> > > >        err = request_irq(vp_dev->pci_dev->irq, vp_interrupt,
> > > > IRQF_SHARED,
> > > >                        dev_name(&vdev->dev), vp_dev);
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/virtio/virtio_pci_common.h
> > > > b/drivers/virtio/virtio_pci_common.h
> > > > index 4b773bd7c58c..602021967aaa 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/virtio/virtio_pci_common.h
> > > > +++ b/drivers/virtio/virtio_pci_common.h
> > > > @@ -60,6 +60,7 @@ struct virtio_pci_device {
> > > > 
> > > >        /* array of all queues for house-keeping */
> > > >        struct virtio_pci_vq_info **vqs;
> > > > +     u32 nvqs;
> > > 
> > > I don't much like it that we are adding more duplicated info here.
> > > In fact, we tried removing the vqs array in
> > > 5c34d002dcc7a6dd665a19d098b4f4cd5501ba1a - there was some bug in that
> > > patch and the author didn't have the time to debug
> > > so I reverted but I don't really think we need to add to that.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hi Michael
> > 
> > As explained in commit message, this patch is mainly to prepare for the
> > subsequent admin vq patches.
> > 
> > The admin vq is also established using the common mechanism of vring,
> > and is added to vdev->vqs in __vring_new_virtqueue(). So vdev->vqs
> > contains all virtqueues, including rxq, txq, ctrlvq and admin vq.
> > 
> > admin vq should be managed by the virito_pci layer and should not be
> > created or deleted by upper driver (net, blk);
> > When the upper driver was unloaded, it will call del_vqs() interface,
> > which wll call vp_del_vqs(), and vp_del_vqs() should not delete the
> > admin vq, but only delete the virtqueues created by the upper driver
> > such as rxq, txq, and ctrlq.
> > 
> > 
> > vp_dev->vqs[] array only contains virtqueues created by upper driver
> > such as rxq, txq, ctrlq. Traversing vp_dev->vqs array can only delete
> > the upper virtqueues, without the admin vq. Use the vdev->vqs linked
> > list cannot meet the needs.
> > 
> > 
> > Can such an explanation be explained clearly? Or do you have any other
> > alternative methods?
> > 
> 
> Hi, Michael
> 	Is the above explanations OK to you?
> 
> Thanks
> Feng

First, the patch only addresses pci. Second, yes driver unload calls
del_vqs but doesn't it also reset the device? If this happens while
vfio tries to send commands to it then you have other problems.
And, for the baroque need of admin vq which
most devices don't have you are duplicating logic and wasting memory for
everyone.

What is a sane solution? virtio core was never designed to
allow two drivers accessing the same device. So don't try, add the logic
of device access in virtio core.  I feel the problem won't even exist if
instead of just exposing the device pointer you expose a sane interface.


> > > > 
> > > >        /* MSI-X support */
> > > >        int msix_enabled;
> > > > -- 
> > > > 2.27.0
> > > 
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Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-21 12:40 [PATCH vfio 00/11] Introduce a vfio driver over virtio devices Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 01/11] virtio-pci: Use virtio pci device layer vq info instead of generic one Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 13:46   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 19:13     ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-27 18:09       ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-27 21:24         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 02/11] virtio: Define feature bit for administration virtqueue Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 03/11] virtio-pci: Introduce admin virtqueue Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 13:57   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 19:23     ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-27 18:12       ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-27 21:27         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02 18:07           ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 04/11] virtio: Expose the synchronous command helper function Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 05/11] virtio-pci: Introduce admin command sending function Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 06/11] virtio-pci: Introduce API to get PF virtio device from VF PCI device Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 07/11] virtio-pci: Introduce admin commands Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-24  5:18   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-25  3:18   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 08/11] vfio/pci: Expose vfio_pci_core_setup_barmap() Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 16:35   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-26  9:45     ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 09/11] vfio/pci: Expose vfio_pci_iowrite/read##size() Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 10/11] vfio/virtio: Expose admin commands over virtio device Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 13:08   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 20:34   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 10:51     ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-26 11:25       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22  9:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 11:14     ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-26 11:41       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <20230927131817.GA338226@nvidia.com>
2023-09-27 21:30           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]             ` <20230927231600.GD339126@nvidia.com>
2023-09-28  5:26               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02  6:28         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]           ` <20231002151320.GA650762@nvidia.com>
2023-10-05  8:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]               ` <20231005111004.GK682044@nvidia.com>
2023-10-06 13:09                 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                   ` <20231010131031.GJ3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-10 13:56                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                       ` <20231010140849.GL3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-10 14:54                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 15:09                           ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-10 15:14                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 15:43                               ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-10 15:58                                 ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-10 15:58                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 16:09                                   ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-10 20:42                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  7:44                                       ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-11  8:02                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  8:58                                           ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-11  9:03                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 11:25                                               ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-11  6:12                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                               ` <20231010155937.GN3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-10 16:03                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                   ` <20231010160712.GO3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-10 16:21                                     ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-10 20:38                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  6:13                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-11  6:43                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  6:59                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-11  8:00                                       ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-11  8:10                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                           ` <20231011121849.GV3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-11 17:03                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 17:05                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:29                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
     [not found]                                           ` <20231012132749.GK3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-13 10:28                                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-13 13:50                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-16  8:33                                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-16  8:52                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-16  9:53                                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-11  8:12                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:30                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-11  6:26                     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                       ` <20231011135709.GW3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-11 14:17                         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                           ` <20231011145810.GZ3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-11 16:59                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                               ` <20231011171944.GA3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-11 20:20                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 11/11] vfio/virtio: Introduce a vfio driver over virtio devices Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 13:16   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]     ` <20230921141125.GM13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-21 14:16       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <20230921164139.GP13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-21 16:53           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]             ` <20230921183926.GV13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-21 19:13               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                 ` <20230921194946.GX13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-21 20:45                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                     ` <20230921225526.GE13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-22  3:02                       ` Jason Wang
2023-09-22 11:23                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22  3:01                   ` Jason Wang
     [not found]                     ` <20230922121132.GK13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-25  2:34                       ` Jason Wang
     [not found]                         ` <20230925122607.GW13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-25 19:44                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                             ` <20230926004059.GM13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-26  5:34                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26  5:42                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                 ` <20230926135057.GO13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-27 21:38                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                     ` <20230927232005.GE339126@nvidia.com>
2023-09-28  5:31                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26  4:37                           ` Jason Wang
2023-09-26  5:33                             ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-21 19:17               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                 ` <20230921195115.GY13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-21 20:55                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-25  4:44                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-22  3:45               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-21 13:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 16:43   ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]     ` <20230921165224.GR13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-21 17:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 17:09         ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-21 17:24           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <20230921170709.GS13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-21 17:21           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]             ` <20230921174450.GT13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-21 17:55               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                 ` <20230921181637.GU13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-21 19:34                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                     ` <20230921195345.GZ13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-21 20:16                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22  3:02                         ` Jason Wang
     [not found]                           ` <20230922122246.GN13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-22 12:25                             ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-22 15:13                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                 ` <20230922151534.GR13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-22 15:40                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                     ` <20230922162233.GT13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-25 17:36                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-25  2:30                               ` Jason Wang
2023-09-25  8:26                                 ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-25 18:36                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26  2:34                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-26  3:45                                     ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-26  4:37                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-10-12 10:52                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 11:11                                         ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-12 11:30                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 11:40                                             ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-26  2:32                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-09-26  4:01                                     ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-26  4:37                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-09-26  5:27                                         ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-26 11:49                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-08  4:28                                       ` Jason Wang
     [not found]                         ` <20230921224836.GD13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-22  9:47                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                             ` <20230922122328.GO13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-22 15:45                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22  3:02                       ` Jason Wang
     [not found]                         ` <20230922122501.GP13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-22 15:39                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                             ` <20230922161928.GS13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-25 18:16                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                 ` <20230925185318.GK13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-25 19:52                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 19:58   ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]     ` <20230921200121.GA13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-21 20:20       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 20:59         ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]     ` <20230922123708.GA130749@nvidia.com>
2023-09-22 12:59       ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-26 15:20     ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-26 17:00       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02  4:38         ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-22 10:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 15:53   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02 11:23     ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization

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