From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, maorg@nvidia.com,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, jiri@nvidia.com,
leonro@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH vfio 11/11] vfio/virtio: Introduce a vfio driver over virtio devices
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:38:55 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230927173221-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230926135057.GO13733@nvidia.com>
On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 10:50:57AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 01:42:52AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 09:40:59PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 03:44:11PM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > VDPA is very different from this. You might call them both mediation,
> > > > > sure, but then you need another word to describe the additional
> > > > > changes VPDA is doing.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry about hijacking the thread a little bit, but could you
> > > > call out some of the changes that are the most problematic
> > > > for you?
> > >
> > > I don't really know these details.
> >
> > Maybe, you then should desist from saying things like "It entirely fails
> > to achieve the most important thing it needs to do!" You are not making
> > any new friends with saying this about a piece of software without
> > knowing the details.
>
> I can't tell you what cloud operators are doing, but I can say with
> confidence that it is not the same as VDPA. As I said, if you want to
> know more details you need to ask a cloud operator.
>
> Jason
So it's not the changes that are problematic, it's that you have
customers who are not using vdpa. The "most important thing" that vdpa
fails at is simply converting your customers from vfio to vdpa.
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2023-09-21 12:40 [PATCH vfio 00/11] Introduce a vfio driver over virtio devices Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
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2023-09-21 13:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 19:13 ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-27 18:09 ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-27 21:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 02/11] virtio: Define feature bit for administration virtqueue Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 03/11] virtio-pci: Introduce admin virtqueue Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 13:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 19:23 ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-27 18:12 ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-27 21:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02 18:07 ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 04/11] virtio: Expose the synchronous command helper function Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 05/11] virtio-pci: Introduce admin command sending function Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 06/11] virtio-pci: Introduce API to get PF virtio device from VF PCI device Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 07/11] virtio-pci: Introduce admin commands Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-24 5:18 ` kernel test robot
2023-09-25 3:18 ` kernel test robot
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 08/11] vfio/pci: Expose vfio_pci_core_setup_barmap() Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 16:35 ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-26 9:45 ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 09/11] vfio/pci: Expose vfio_pci_iowrite/read##size() Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 10/11] vfio/virtio: Expose admin commands over virtio device Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 20:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 10:51 ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-26 11:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 9:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 11:14 ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-26 11:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20230927131817.GA338226@nvidia.com>
2023-09-27 21:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20230927231600.GD339126@nvidia.com>
2023-09-28 5:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02 6:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20231002151320.GA650762@nvidia.com>
2023-10-05 8:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20231005111004.GK682044@nvidia.com>
2023-10-06 13:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20231010131031.GJ3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-10 13:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20231010140849.GL3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-10 14:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 15:09 ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-10 15:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 15:43 ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-10 15:58 ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-10 15:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 16:09 ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-10 20:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 7:44 ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-11 8:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 8:58 ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-11 9:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 11:25 ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-11 6:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20231010155937.GN3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-10 16:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20231010160712.GO3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-10 16:21 ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
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[not found] ` <20231011121849.GV3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-11 17:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 17:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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[not found] ` <20231012132749.GK3952@nvidia.com>
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2023-10-13 13:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-16 8:33 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-16 8:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-16 9:53 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-11 8:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:30 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-11 6:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20231011135709.GW3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-11 14:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20231011145810.GZ3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-11 16:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20231011171944.GA3952@nvidia.com>
2023-10-11 20:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 11/11] vfio/virtio: Introduce a vfio driver over virtio devices Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
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2023-09-21 20:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20230921225526.GE13733@nvidia.com>
2023-09-22 3:02 ` Jason Wang
2023-09-22 11:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 3:01 ` Jason Wang
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2023-09-26 5:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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[not found] ` <20230922122246.GN13733@nvidia.com>
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[not found] ` <20230922151534.GR13733@nvidia.com>
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[not found] ` <20230922162233.GT13733@nvidia.com>
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[not found] ` <20230922161928.GS13733@nvidia.com>
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