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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Madhavan T. Venkataraman" <madvenka@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 17/19] heki: x86: Update permissions counters during text patching
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:08:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231127200841.GZ3818@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a52d8885-43cc-4a4e-bb47-9a800070779e@linux.microsoft.com>

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 10:48:29AM -0600, Madhavan T. Venkataraman wrote:
> Apologies for the late reply. I was on vacation. Please see my response below:
> 
> On 11/13/23 02:19, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 09:23:24PM -0500, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> >> From: Madhavan T. Venkataraman <madvenka@linux.microsoft.com>
> >>
> >> X86 uses a function called __text_poke() to modify executable code. This
> >> patching function is used by many features such as KProbes and FTrace.
> >>
> >> Update the permissions counters for the text page so that write
> >> permissions can be temporarily established in the EPT to modify the
> >> instructions in that page.
> >>
> >> Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
> >> Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
> >> Cc: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>
> >> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> >> Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> >> Cc: Madhavan T. Venkataraman <madvenka@linux.microsoft.com>
> >> Cc: Mickaël Salaün <mic@digikod.net>
> >> Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> >> Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> >> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> >> Cc: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
> >> Cc: Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>
> >> Signed-off-by: Madhavan T. Venkataraman <madvenka@linux.microsoft.com>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> Changes since v1:
> >> * New patch
> >> ---
> >>  arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c |  5 ++++
> >>  arch/x86/mm/heki.c            | 49 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>  include/linux/heki.h          | 14 ++++++++++
> >>  3 files changed, 68 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c b/arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c
> >> index 517ee01503be..64fd8757ba5c 100644
> >> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c
> >> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c
> >> @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@
> >>  #include <linux/mmu_context.h>
> >>  #include <linux/bsearch.h>
> >>  #include <linux/sync_core.h>
> >> +#include <linux/heki.h>
> >>  #include <asm/text-patching.h>
> >>  #include <asm/alternative.h>
> >>  #include <asm/sections.h>
> >> @@ -1801,6 +1802,7 @@ static void *__text_poke(text_poke_f func, void *addr, const void *src, size_t l
> >>  	 */
> >>  	pgprot = __pgprot(pgprot_val(PAGE_KERNEL) & ~_PAGE_GLOBAL);
> >>  
> >> +	heki_text_poke_start(pages, cross_page_boundary ? 2 : 1, pgprot);
> >>  	/*
> >>  	 * The lock is not really needed, but this allows to avoid open-coding.
> >>  	 */
> >> @@ -1865,7 +1867,10 @@ static void *__text_poke(text_poke_f func, void *addr, const void *src, size_t l
> >>  	}
> >>  
> >>  	local_irq_restore(flags);
> >> +
> >>  	pte_unmap_unlock(ptep, ptl);
> >> +	heki_text_poke_end(pages, cross_page_boundary ? 2 : 1, pgprot);
> >> +
> >>  	return addr;
> >>  }
> > 
> > This makes no sense, we already use a custom CR3 with userspace alias
> > for the actual pages to write to, why are you then frobbing permissions
> > on that *again* ?
> 
> Today, the permissions for a guest page in the extended page table
> (EPT) are RWX (unless permissions are restricted for some specific
> reason like for shadow page table pages). In this Heki feature, we
> don't allow RWX by default in the EPT. We only allow those permissions
> in the EPT that the guest page actually needs.  E.g., for a text page,
> it is R_X in both the guest page table and the EPT.

To what end? If you always mirror what the guest does, you've not
actually gained anything.

> For text patching, the above code establishes an alternate mapping in
> the guest page table that is RW_ so that the text can be patched. That
> needs to be reflected in the EPT so that the EPT permissions will
> change from R_X to RWX. In other words, RWX is allowed only as
> necessary. At the end of patching, the EPT permissions are restored to
> R_X.
> 
> Does that address your comment?

No, if you want to mirror the native PTEs why don't you hook into the
paravirt page-table muck and get all that for free?

Also, this is the user range, are you saying you're also playing these
daft games with user maps?

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-27 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-13  2:23 [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] Hypervisor-Enforced Kernel Integrity Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/19] virt: Introduce Hypervisor Enforced Kernel Integrity (Heki) Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/19] KVM: x86: Add new hypercall to lock control registers Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/19] KVM: x86: Add notifications for Heki policy configuration and violation Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/19] heki: Lock guest control registers at the end of guest kernel init Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/19] KVM: VMX: Add MBEC support Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/19] KVM: x86: Add kvm_x86_ops.fault_gva() Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/19] KVM: x86: Make memory attribute helpers more generic Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/19] KVM: x86: Extend kvm_vm_set_mem_attributes() with a mask Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/19] KVM: x86: Extend kvm_range_has_memory_attributes() with match_all Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/19] KVM: x86: Implement per-guest-page permissions Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/19] KVM: x86: Add new hypercall to set EPT permissions Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/19] x86: Implement the Memory Table feature to store arbitrary per-page data Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/19] heki: Implement a kernel page table walker Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/19] heki: x86: Initialize permissions counters for pages mapped into KVA Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/19] heki: x86: Initialize permissions counters for pages in vmap()/vunmap() Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/19] heki: x86: Update permissions counters when guest page permissions change Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/19] heki: x86: Update permissions counters during text patching Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  8:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-27 16:48     ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2023-11-27 20:08       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-11-29 21:07         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2023-11-30 11:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-06 16:37             ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2023-12-06 18:51               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-08 18:41                 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2023-12-01  0:45           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-12-06 16:41             ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/19] heki: x86: Protect guest kernel memory using the KVM hypervisor Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-13  8:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-27 17:05     ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2023-11-27 20:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-29 19:47         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2023-11-13  2:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/19] virt: Add Heki KUnit tests Mickaël Salaün

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