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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: michael.christie@oracle.com
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	oleg@redhat.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, sgarzare@redhat.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com, brauner@kernel.org,
	Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] vhost: Support SIGKILL by flushing and exiting
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 00:21:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240410002040-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7ec68a6-86de-4f3e-abc0-bc3e87f5f5a9@oracle.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 04:55:25PM -0500, michael.christie@oracle.com wrote:
> On 4/9/24 11:40 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 09:57:00AM -0500, Mike Christie wrote:
> >> On 4/8/24 11:16 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> >>>> It turns out only vhost-scsi had an issue where it would send a command
> >>>> to the block/LIO layer, wait for a response and then process in the vhost
> >>>> task.
> >>> Vhost-net TX zerocopy code did the same:
> >>>
> >>> It sends zerocopy packets to the under layer and waits for the
> >>> underlayer. When the DMA is completed, vhost_zerocopy_callback will be
> >>> called to schedule vq work for used ring updating.
> >>
> >> I think it might be slightly different and vhost-net is ok.
> >>
> >> Above I meant, vhost-scsi would do the equivalent of:
> >>
> >> vhost_zerocopy_callback ->  vhost_net_ubuf_put
> >>
> >> from vhost_task/thread.
> >>
> >> For vhost-net then, if we get an early exit via a signal the patches will flush
> >> queued works and prevent new ones from being queued. vhost_net_release will run
> >> due to the process/thread exit code releasing it's refcounts on the device.
> >>
> >> vhost_net_release will then do:
> >>
> >> vhost_net_flush -> vhost_net_ubuf_put_and_wait
> >>
> >> and wait for vhost_zerocopy_callback -> vhost_net_ubuf_put calls.
> >>
> >> For vhost-scsi we would hang. We would do our equivalent of vhost_net_ubuf_put
> >> from the vhost task/thread. So, when our release function, vhost_scsi_release,
> >> is called we will also do a similar wait. However, because the task/thread is
> >> killed, we will hang there since the "put" will never be done.
> > 
> > If you can find a way to cancel them instead of flushing out,
> > I think it would be better for net, too.
> 
> I don't think canceling block requests will be possible any time soon.
> It's one of those things that people have wanted for decades but it gets
> messy when you are dealing multiple layers (fs, md/md, request queue,
> device driver, etc) that some don't even use the same struct sometimes
> (bios vs requests) and you don't want to hurt performance.
> 
> So for vhost-scsi we can't cancel running block layer IOs because there
> is no interface for it. We have to sit around and wait for them to
> complete or timeout.
> 
> If you are saying cancel at just the vhost/vhost-net/vhost-scsi layers
> then I can do that. However, I think it might be messier.

I think that'd be kind of pointless ...

> We would clean
> up some of the vhost related resource, then return from the
> file_operations->release functions. Then we would have to have some
> workqueue that just waits for driver specific responses (block layer
> responses for vhost-scsi). When it gets them, then it does "puts" on
> it's structs and eventually they are freed.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-10  4:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-16  0:46 [PATCH 0/9] vhost: Support SIGKILL by flushing and exiting Mike Christie
2024-03-16  0:46 ` [PATCH 1/9] vhost-scsi: Handle vhost_vq_work_queue failures for events Mike Christie
2024-03-16  0:47 ` [PATCH 2/9] vhost-scsi: Handle vhost_vq_work_queue failures for cmds Mike Christie
2024-03-16  0:47 ` [PATCH 3/9] vhost-scsi: Use system wq to flush dev for TMFs Mike Christie
2024-03-16  0:47 ` [PATCH 4/9] vhost: Remove vhost_vq_flush Mike Christie
2024-03-16  0:47 ` [PATCH 5/9] vhost_scsi: Handle vhost_vq_work_queue failures for TMFs Mike Christie
2024-03-16  0:47 ` [PATCH 6/9] vhost: Use virtqueue mutex for swapping worker Mike Christie
2024-03-16  0:47 ` [PATCH 7/9] vhost: Release worker mutex during flushes Mike Christie
2024-03-16  0:47 ` [PATCH 8/9] vhost_task: Handle SIGKILL by flushing work and exiting Mike Christie
2024-03-16  0:47 ` [PATCH 9/9] kernel: Remove signal hacks for vhost_tasks Mike Christie
2024-04-09  4:16 ` [PATCH 0/9] vhost: Support SIGKILL by flushing and exiting Jason Wang
2024-04-09 14:57   ` Mike Christie
2024-04-09 16:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-04-09 21:55       ` michael.christie
2024-04-10  4:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2024-04-18  7:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-04-11  8:39 ` Jason Wang
2024-04-11 16:19   ` Mike Christie
2024-04-12  3:28     ` Jason Wang
2024-04-12 16:52       ` michael.christie
2024-04-15  8:52         ` Jason Wang
2024-04-17  3:50           ` Jason Wang
2024-04-17 16:03             ` Mike Christie
2024-04-18  4:08               ` Jason Wang
2024-04-18  7:07                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-04-18  9:25                   ` Andreas Karis
2024-04-19  0:37                     ` Jason Wang
2024-04-19  0:40                       ` Jason Wang
2024-05-15  6:27                         ` Jason Wang
2024-05-15  7:24                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-04-19  0:33                   ` Jason Wang
2024-04-18  7:01               ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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