From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
"Richard Weinberger" <richard@nod.at>,
"Anton Ivanov" <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>,
"Johannes Berg" <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
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"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
"Vadim Pasternak" <vadimp@nvidia.com>,
"Bjorn Andersson" <andersson@kernel.org>,
"Mathieu Poirier" <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
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"Heiko Carstens" <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
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"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
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platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
linux-remoteproc@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Wei Wang" <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH vhost v9 2/6] virtio: remove support for names array entries being null.
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 06:01:54 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240620054548-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1718874293.698573-2-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 05:04:53PM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 05:01:08 -0400, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 04:39:38PM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 04:02:45 -0400, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 05:15:29PM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> > > > > commit 6457f126c888 ("virtio: support reserved vqs") introduced this
> > > > > support. Multiqueue virtio-net use 2N as ctrl vq finally, so the logic
> > > > > doesn't apply. And not one uses this.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the other side, that makes some trouble for us to refactor the
> > > > > find_vqs() params.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I remove this support.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > > > Acked-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > > > > Acked-by: Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com> # s390
> > > > > Acked-by: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't mind, but this patchset is too big already.
> > > > Why do we need to make this part of this patchset?
> > >
> > >
> > > If some the pointers of the names is NULL, then in the virtio ring,
> > > we will have a trouble to index from the arrays(names, callbacks...).
> > > Becasue that the idx of the vq is not the index of these arrays.
> > >
> > > If the names is [NULL, "rx", "tx"], the first vq is the "rx", but index of the
> > > vq is zero, but the index of the info of this vq inside the arrays is 1.
> >
> >
> > Ah. So actually, it used to work.
> >
> > What this should refer to is
> >
> > commit ddbeac07a39a81d82331a312d0578fab94fccbf1
> > Author: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
> > Date: Fri Dec 28 10:26:25 2018 +0800
> >
> > virtio_pci: use queue idx instead of array idx to set up the vq
> >
> > When find_vqs, there will be no vq[i] allocation if its corresponding
> > names[i] is NULL. For example, the caller may pass in names[i] (i=4)
> > with names[2] being NULL because the related feature bit is turned off,
> > so technically there are 3 queues on the device, and name[4] should
> > correspond to the 3rd queue on the device.
> >
> > So we use queue_idx as the queue index, which is increased only when the
> > queue exists.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> >
>
> That just work for PCI.
>
> The trouble I described is that we can not index in the virtio ring.
>
> In virtio ring, we may like to use the vq.index that do not increase
> for the NULL.
>
>
> >
> > Which made it so setting names NULL actually does not reserve a vq.
> >
> > But I worry about non pci transports - there's a chance they used
> > a different index with the balloon. Did you test some of these?
> >
>
> Balloon is out of spec.
>
> The vq.index does not increase for the name NULL. So the Balloon use the
> continuous id. That is out of spec.
I see. And apparently the QEMU implementation is out of spec, too,
so they work fine. And STATS is always on in QEMU.
That change by Wei broke the theoretical config which has
!STATS but does have FREE_PAGE. We never noticed - not many people
ever bothered with FREE_PAGE.
However QEMU really is broken in a weird way.
In particular if it exposes STATS but driver does not
configure STATS then QEMU still has the stats vq.
Things will break then.
In short, it's a mess, and it needs thought.
At this point I suggest we keep the ability to set
names to NULL in case we want to just revert Wei's patch.
> That does not matter for this patchset.
> The name NULL is always skipped.
>
> Thanks.
Let's keep this patchset as small as possible.
Keep the existing functionality, we'll do cleanups
later.
> > --
> > MST
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-20 10:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-24 9:15 [PATCH vhost v9 0/6] refactor the params of find_vqs() Xuan Zhuo
2024-04-24 9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 1/6] virtio_balloon: remove the dependence where names[] is null Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 8:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20 8:21 ` Jason Wang
2024-04-24 9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 2/6] virtio: remove support for names array entries being null Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 8:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20 8:39 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 9:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20 9:04 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 10:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2024-06-20 10:49 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 11:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20 11:04 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 13:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-22 6:07 ` Wang, Wei W
2024-06-23 10:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-04-24 9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 3/6] virtio: find_vqs: pass struct instead of multi parameters Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 7:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20 9:00 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 9:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20 9:20 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20 10:43 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 11:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20 11:12 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 11:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-04-24 9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 4/6] virtio: vring_create_virtqueue: " Xuan Zhuo
2024-04-24 9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 5/6] virtio: vring_new_virtqueue(): " Xuan Zhuo
2024-04-24 9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 6/6] virtio_ring: simplify the parameters of the funcs related to vring_create/new_virtqueue() Xuan Zhuo
2024-05-17 1:25 ` [PATCH vhost v9 0/6] refactor the params of find_vqs() Xuan Zhuo
2024-05-22 12:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-05-22 12:35 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-05-22 12:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-05-22 12:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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