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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
	"Richard Weinberger" <richard@nod.at>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH vhost v9 2/6] virtio: remove support for names array entries being null.
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 07:02:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240620065602-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1718880548.281809-3-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 06:49:08PM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 06:01:54 -0400, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 05:04:53PM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 05:01:08 -0400, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 04:39:38PM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 04:02:45 -0400, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 05:15:29PM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> > > > > > > commit 6457f126c888 ("virtio: support reserved vqs") introduced this
> > > > > > > support. Multiqueue virtio-net use 2N as ctrl vq finally, so the logic
> > > > > > > doesn't apply. And not one uses this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On the other side, that makes some trouble for us to refactor the
> > > > > > > find_vqs() params.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I remove this support.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > > > > > Acked-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > Acked-by: Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com> # s390
> > > > > > > Acked-by: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't mind, but this patchset is too big already.
> > > > > > Why do we need to make this part of this patchset?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If some the pointers of the names is NULL, then in the virtio ring,
> > > > > we will have a trouble to index from the arrays(names, callbacks...).
> > > > > Becasue that the idx of the vq is not the index of these arrays.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the names is [NULL, "rx", "tx"], the first vq is the "rx", but index of the
> > > > > vq is zero, but the index of the info of this vq inside the arrays is 1.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ah. So actually, it used to work.
> > > >
> > > > What this should refer to is
> > > >
> > > > commit ddbeac07a39a81d82331a312d0578fab94fccbf1
> > > > Author: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
> > > > Date:   Fri Dec 28 10:26:25 2018 +0800
> > > >
> > > >     virtio_pci: use queue idx instead of array idx to set up the vq
> > > >
> > > >     When find_vqs, there will be no vq[i] allocation if its corresponding
> > > >     names[i] is NULL. For example, the caller may pass in names[i] (i=4)
> > > >     with names[2] being NULL because the related feature bit is turned off,
> > > >     so technically there are 3 queues on the device, and name[4] should
> > > >     correspond to the 3rd queue on the device.
> > > >
> > > >     So we use queue_idx as the queue index, which is increased only when the
> > > >     queue exists.
> > > >
> > > >     Signed-off-by: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
> > > >     Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > >
> > >
> > > That just work for PCI.
> > >
> > > The trouble I described is that we can not index in the virtio ring.
> > >
> > > In virtio ring, we may like to use the vq.index that do not increase
> > > for the NULL.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Which made it so setting names NULL actually does not reserve a vq.
> > > >
> > > > But I worry about non pci transports - there's a chance they used
> > > > a different index with the balloon. Did you test some of these?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Balloon is out of spec.
> > >
> > > The vq.index does not increase for the name NULL. So the Balloon use the
> > > continuous id. That is out of spec.
> >
> >
> > I see. And apparently the QEMU implementation is out of spec, too,
> > so they work fine. And STATS is always on in QEMU.
> >
> > That change by Wei broke the theoretical config which has
> > !STATS but does have FREE_PAGE. We never noticed - not many people
> > ever bothered with FREE_PAGE.
> >
> > However QEMU really is broken in a weird way.
> > In particular if it exposes STATS but driver does not
> > configure STATS then QEMU still has the stats vq.
> > Things will break then.
> >
> >
> > In short, it's a mess, and it needs thought.
> > At this point I suggest we keep the ability to set
> > names to NULL in case we want to just revert Wei's patch.
> >
> >
> >
> > > That does not matter for this patchset.
> > > The name NULL is always skipped.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Let's keep this patchset as small as possible.
> > Keep the existing functionality, we'll do cleanups
> > later.
> 
> 
> I am ok. But we need a idx to index the info of the vq.
> 
> How about a new element "cfg_idx" to virtio_vq_config.
> 
> struct virtio_vq_config {
> 	unsigned int nvqs;
> ->	unsigned int cfg_idx;
> 
> 	struct virtqueue   **vqs;
> 	vq_callback_t      **callbacks;
> 	const char         **names;
> 	const bool          *ctx;
> 	struct irq_affinity *desc;
> };
> 
> 
> That is setted by transport. The virtio ring can use this to index the info
> of the vq. Then the #1 #2 commits can be dropped.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 

I'm not sure why you need this in the API.


Actually now I think about it, the whole struct is weird.
I think nvqs etc should be outside the struct.
All arrays are the same size, why not:

struct virtio_vq_config {
 	vq_callback_t      callback;
 	const char         *name;
 	const bool          ctx;
};

And find_vqs should get an array of these.
Leave the rest of params alone.


> 
> >
> >
> > > > --
> > > > MST
> > > >
> >


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-20 11:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-24  9:15 [PATCH vhost v9 0/6] refactor the params of find_vqs() Xuan Zhuo
2024-04-24  9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 1/6] virtio_balloon: remove the dependence where names[] is null Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20  8:08   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20  8:21     ` Jason Wang
2024-04-24  9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 2/6] virtio: remove support for names array entries being null Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20  8:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20  8:39     ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20  9:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20  9:04         ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 10:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20 10:49             ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 11:02               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2024-06-20 11:04                 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 13:51                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-22  6:07         ` Wang, Wei W
2024-06-23 10:14           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-04-24  9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 3/6] virtio: find_vqs: pass struct instead of multi parameters Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20  7:56   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20  9:00     ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20  9:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20  9:20         ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 10:15           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20 10:43             ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 11:06               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-20 11:12                 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-06-20 11:37                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-04-24  9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 4/6] virtio: vring_create_virtqueue: " Xuan Zhuo
2024-04-24  9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 5/6] virtio: vring_new_virtqueue(): " Xuan Zhuo
2024-04-24  9:15 ` [PATCH vhost v9 6/6] virtio_ring: simplify the parameters of the funcs related to vring_create/new_virtqueue() Xuan Zhuo
2024-05-17  1:25 ` [PATCH vhost v9 0/6] refactor the params of find_vqs() Xuan Zhuo
2024-05-22 12:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-05-22 12:35   ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-05-22 12:43     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-05-22 12:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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