From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Srujana Challa <schalla@marvell.com>,
"virtualization@lists.linux.dev" <virtualization@lists.linux.dev>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"eperezma@redhat.com" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
Nithin Kumar Dabilpuram <ndabilpuram@marvell.com>,
Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] vhost-vdpa: Add support for NO-IOMMU mode
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 13:41:51 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241016134127-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zw3mC3Ej7m0KyZVv@infradead.org>
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 08:48:27PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 01:18:01PM +0000, Srujana Challa wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 07:35:28PM +0530, Srujana Challa wrote:
> > > > This patchset introduces support for an UNSAFE, no-IOMMU mode in the
> > > > vhost-vdpa driver. When enabled, this mode provides no device
> > > > isolation, no DMA translation, no host kernel protection, and cannot
> > > > be used for device assignment to virtual machines. It requires RAWIO
> > > > permissions and will taint the kernel.
> > > >
> > > > This mode requires enabling the
> > > "enable_vhost_vdpa_unsafe_noiommu_mode"
> > > > option on the vhost-vdpa driver and also negotiate the feature flag
> > > > VHOST_BACKEND_F_NOIOMMU. This mode would be useful to get better
> > > > performance on specifice low end machines and can be leveraged by
> > > > embedded platforms where applications run in controlled environment.
> > >
> > > ... and is completely broken and dangerous.
> > Based on the discussions in this thread https://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg357569.html,
> > we have decided to proceed with this implementation. Could you please share any
> > alternative ideas or suggestions you might have?
>
> Don't do this. It is inherently unsafe and dangerous and there is not
> valid reason to implement it.
>
> Double-Nacked-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
It's basically because vfio does, so we have to follow suit.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-16 17:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-20 14:05 [PATCH v2 0/2] vhost-vdpa: Add support for NO-IOMMU mode Srujana Challa
2024-09-20 14:05 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] vhost-vdpa: introduce module parameter for no-IOMMU mode Srujana Challa
2024-09-21 17:28 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-20 14:05 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] vhost-vdpa: introduce NO-IOMMU backend feature bit Srujana Challa
2024-09-24 7:43 ` Jason Wang
2024-09-24 10:01 ` [EXTERNAL] " Srujana Challa
2024-10-01 8:47 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] vhost-vdpa: Add support for NO-IOMMU mode Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14 13:18 ` [EXTERNAL] " Srujana Challa
2024-10-15 3:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-16 17:28 ` Srujana Challa
2024-10-17 6:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 8:53 ` Srujana Challa
2024-10-18 4:54 ` Jason Wang
2024-10-18 5:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-18 13:08 ` Srujana Challa
2024-10-16 17:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2024-10-17 6:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-20 0:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-10-23 6:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-23 8:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-10-24 9:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-06 12:38 ` Srujana Challa
2024-11-06 15:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-07 6:08 ` Srujana Challa
2024-11-12 7:11 ` Srujana Challa
2024-11-06 18:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-11-06 18:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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