From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Daniel Stone <daniel@fooishbar.org>
Cc: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>,
Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com, mripard@kernel.org,
airlied@gmail.com, simona@ffwll.ch,
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intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
Andy Yan <andyshrk@163.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 25/25] drm/xlnx: Compute dumb-buffer sizes with drm_mode_size_dumb()
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 10:43:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250116084340.GF6754@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPj87rOn=RQ615zyaEdFT2ADfPztU7+heVi0G34Rdg-=QO1cCw@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 02:34:26PM +0000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 14:20, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> > No disagreement there, we need CREATE_DUMB2.
> >
> > My point is that we have the current UAPI, and we have userspace using
> > it, but we don't have clear rules what the ioctl does with specific
> > parameters, and we don't document how it has to be used.
> >
> > Perhaps the situation is bad, and all we can really say is that
> > CREATE_DUMB only works for use with simple RGB formats, and the behavior
> > for all other formats is platform specific. But I think even that would
> > be valuable in the UAPI docs.
>
> Yeah, CREATE_DUMB only works for use with simple RGB formats in a
> linear layout. Not monochrome or YUV or tiled or displayed rotated or
> whatever.
>
> If it happens to accidentally work for other uses, that's fine, but
> it's not generically reliable for anything other than simple linear
> RGB. It's intended to let you do splash screens, consoles, recovery
> password entries, and software-rendered compositors if you really
> want. Anything more than that isn't 'dumb'.
We have lots of software out there that rely on CREATE_DUMB supporting
YUV linear formats, and lots of drivers (mostly on Arm I suppose) that
implement YUV support in CREATE_DUMB. I'm fine replacing it with
something better, but I think we need a standard ioctl that can create
linear YUV buffers. I've been told many times that DRM doesn't want to
standardize buffer allocation further than what CREATE_DUMB is made for.
Can we reconsider this rule then ?
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-16 8:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-09 14:56 [PATCH v2 00/25] drm/dumb-buffers: Fix and improve buffer-size calculation Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 01/25] drm/dumb-buffers: Sanitize output on errors Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 02/25] drm/dumb-buffers: Provide helper to set pitch and size Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-10 1:49 ` Andy Yan
2025-01-10 13:23 ` [PATCH " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-13 3:53 ` Andy Yan
2025-01-13 7:52 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 03/25] drm/gem-dma: Compute dumb-buffer sizes with drm_mode_size_dumb() Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 04/25] drm/gem-shmem: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 05/25] drm/gem-vram: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 06/25] drm/armada: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 07/25] drm/exynos: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 08/25] drm/gma500: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 09/25] drm/hibmc: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 10/25] drm/imx/ipuv3: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-10 8:06 ` Philipp Zabel
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 11/25] drm/loongson: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15 3:50 ` Sui Jingfeng
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 12/25] drm/mediatek: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 13/25] drm/msm: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-13 8:25 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 14/25] drm/nouveau: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 15/25] drm/omapdrm: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-14 14:04 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 16/25] drm/qxl: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 17/25] drm/renesas/rcar-du: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 18/25] drm/renesas/rz-du: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 19/25] drm/rockchip: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 22:59 ` Heiko Stübner
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 20/25] drm/tegra: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 21/25] drm/virtio: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-02-20 16:10 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 22/25] drm/vmwgfx: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-10 18:18 ` Zack Rusin
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 23/25] drm/xe: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 16:05 ` Matthew Auld
2025-01-09 16:26 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 17:15 ` Matthew Auld
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 24/25] drm/xen: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v2 25/25] drm/xlnx: " Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15 10:13 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-15 10:26 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15 10:58 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-15 11:37 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15 12:06 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-15 12:34 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15 13:33 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-15 13:45 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-15 14:20 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-15 14:34 ` Daniel Stone
2025-01-16 8:43 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2025-01-16 9:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-01-16 10:07 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-19 17:08 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-01-16 8:09 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-16 10:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-16 10:17 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-01-16 10:26 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-16 10:35 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-01-16 12:24 ` Daniel Stone
2025-01-19 11:29 ` Sui Jingfeng
2025-01-19 12:18 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-19 14:59 ` Sui Jingfeng
2025-01-19 15:22 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-19 16:26 ` Sui Jingfeng
2025-01-19 20:14 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-01-20 7:04 ` Sui Jingfeng
2025-01-20 3:34 ` Sui Jingfeng
2025-01-20 7:49 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-20 8:51 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-01-20 8:57 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-01-20 7:54 ` Thomas Zimmermann
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