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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux.dev, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Chandra Merla <cmerla@redhat.com>,
	Stable@vger.kernel.org, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
	Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] s390/virtio_ccw: don't allocate/assign airqs for non-existing queues
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 05:37:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250407053037-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a86240bc-8417-48a6-bf13-01dd7ace5ae9@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 07, 2025 at 11:11:34AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 07.04.25 10:58, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 07, 2025 at 10:54:00AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > On 07.04.25 10:49, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Apr 07, 2025 at 10:44:21AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Whoever adds new feat_X *must be aware* about all previous features,
> > > > > > > otherwise we'd be reusing feature bits and everything falls to pieces.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The knowledge is supposed be limited to which feature bit to use.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think we also have to know which virtqueue bits can be used, right?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > what are virtqueue bits? vq number?
> > > 
> > > Yes, sorry.
> > 
> > I got confused myself, it's vq index actually now, we made the spec
> > consistent with that terminology. used to be number/index
> > interchangeably.
> > 
> > > Assume cross-vm as an example. It would make use of virtqueue indexes 5+6
> > > with their VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_WS_REPORTING.
> > 
> > 
> > crossvm guys really should have reserved the feature bit even if they
> > did not bother specifying it. Let's reserve it now at least?
> 
> Along with the virtqueue indices, right?

Well ... as long as the implementation is careful to check that feature
is negotiated, reusing vq index at least causes no trouble for others.


> Note that there was
> 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2023-05/msg02503.html
> 
> and
> 
> https://groups.oasis-open.org/communities/community-home/digestviewer/viewthread?GroupId=3973&MessageKey=afb07613-f56c-4d40-8981-2fad1c723998&CommunityKey=2f26be99-3aa1-48f6-93a5-018dce262226&hlmlt=VT
> 
> But it only was RFC, and as the QEMU implementation didn't materialize,
> nobody seemed to care ...

Thanks! I will try poke the author again.


> > 
> > 
> > > So whatever feature another device implements couldn't use this feature bit
> > > or these virtqueue indexes.
> > > 
> > > (as long the other device never intends to implement
> > > VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_WS_REPORTING, the virtqueue indexes could be reused. But
> > > the spec will also be a mess, because virtqueue indexes could also have
> > > duplicate meanings ... ugh)
> > 
> > what do they do with vq indices btw?
> 
> See above links, they use the two for "s_vq and notification_vq".
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> David / dhildenb


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-07  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-02 20:36 [PATCH v1] s390/virtio_ccw: don't allocate/assign airqs for non-existing queues David Hildenbrand
2025-04-03  9:44 ` Thomas Huth
2025-04-03 12:45 ` Cornelia Huck
2025-04-03 12:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 13:12 ` Christian Borntraeger
2025-04-03 14:18 ` Halil Pasic
2025-04-03 14:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-04  4:36     ` Halil Pasic
2025-04-04 10:00       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-04 10:55         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-04 13:36           ` Halil Pasic
2025-04-04 13:48             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-04 14:00               ` Halil Pasic
2025-04-04 14:17                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-04 15:39                   ` Halil Pasic
2025-04-04 16:49                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-04 17:36                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  7:52                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-07  8:17                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  8:34                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-07  8:44                           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  8:49                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-07  8:54                               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  8:58                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-07  9:11                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  9:13                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07 13:13                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07 17:39                                         ` Daniel Verkamp
2025-04-07 18:47                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07 21:09                                             ` Daniel Verkamp
2025-04-09 11:02                                               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07 21:20                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-09 10:46                                               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-09 10:56                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-09 11:12                                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-09 12:07                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-09 12:24                                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-09 16:08                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-07  9:37                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-04-07 13:12                           ` Halil Pasic
2025-04-07 13:17                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07 13:28                               ` Cornelia Huck
2025-04-07 13:32                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-07 17:26                                 ` Halil Pasic
2025-04-07  8:38                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  8:44                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-07  8:50                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  9:22                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  8:41                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-06 18:42               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-07  7:18                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  8:54                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-07  9:08                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-06 15:40           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-03 14:35   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-04  4:02     ` Halil Pasic
2025-04-04  5:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-04 12:05         ` Halil Pasic
2025-04-10 18:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-11 11:11   ` Christian Borntraeger
2025-04-11 12:42     ` Heiko Carstens
2025-04-11 12:47       ` Christian Borntraeger
2025-04-11 13:34       ` David Hildenbrand

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