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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux.dev" <virtualization@lists.linux.dev>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	"NBU-Contact-Li Rongqing (EXTERNAL)" <lirongqing@baidu.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>,
	"xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"alok.a.tiwari@oracle.com" <alok.a.tiwari@oracle.com>,
	Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	Israel Rukshin <israelr@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] virtio_blk: Fix disk deletion hang on device surprise removal
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 08:21:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250627082048-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CY8PR12MB71958505493CE570B5C519A0DC7AA@CY8PR12MB7195.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 09:19:49AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: 26 June 2025 12:04 PM
> > To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
> > Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>; axboe@kernel.dk;
> > virtualization@lists.linux.dev; linux-block@vger.kernel.org;
> > stable@vger.kernel.org; NBU-Contact-Li Rongqing (EXTERNAL)
> > <lirongqing@baidu.com>; Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>;
> > xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com; pbonzini@redhat.com;
> > jasowang@redhat.com; alok.a.tiwari@oracle.com; Max Gurtovoy
> > <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>; Israel Rukshin <israelr@nvidia.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] virtio_blk: Fix disk deletion hang on device surprise
> > removal
> > 
> > On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 06:29:09AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > > > > yes however this is not at all different that hotunplug right after reset.
> > > > > >
> > > > > For hotunplug after reset, we likely need a timeout handler.
> > > > > Because block driver running inside the remove() callback waiting
> > > > > for the IO,
> > > > may not get notified from driver core to synchronize ongoing remove().
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Notified of what?
> > > Notification that surprise-removal occurred.
> > >
> > > > So is the scenario that graceful remove starts, and meanwhile a
> > > > surprise removal happens?
> > > >
> > > Right.
> > 
> > 
> > where is it stuck then? can you explain?
> 
> I am not sure I understood the question.
> 
> Let me try:
> Following scenario will hang even with the current fix:
> 
> Say, 
> 1. the graceful removal is ongoing in the remove() callback, where disk deletion del_gendisk() is ongoing, which waits for the requests to complete,
> 
> 2. Now few requests are yet to complete, and surprise removal started.
> 
> At this point, virtio block driver will not get notified by the driver core layer, because it is likely serializing remove() happening by user/driver unload and PCI hotplug driver-initiated device removal.
> So vblk driver doesn't know that device is removed, block layer is waiting for requests completions to arrive which it never gets.
> So del_gendisk() gets stuck.
> 
> This needs some kind of timeout handling to improve the situation to make removal more robust.
> 
> Did I answer or I didn't understand the question?

You did, thanks! How do other drivers handle this? The issue seems generic.

-- 
MST


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-27 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-02  2:44 [PATCH v5] virtio_blk: Fix disk deletion hang on device surprise removal Parav Pandit
2025-06-02 11:46 ` ALOK TIWARI
2025-06-18  9:29 ` Parav Pandit
2025-06-24 18:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-06-24 19:01   ` Parav Pandit
2025-06-24 19:06     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-06-24 19:11       ` Parav Pandit
2025-06-24 19:54         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-06-25  2:55           ` Parav Pandit
2025-06-25 11:04             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-06-25 11:08               ` Parav Pandit
2025-06-25 11:44                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-06-25 19:08                   ` Parav Pandit
2025-06-25 19:22                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-06-26  3:26                       ` Parav Pandit
2025-06-26  6:04                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-06-26  6:29                           ` Parav Pandit
2025-06-26  6:33                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-06-26  9:19                               ` Parav Pandit
2025-06-27 12:21                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-06-27 14:00                                   ` Keith Busch
2025-06-24 19:06   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-06-25 12:39   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-06-25 19:01     ` Parav Pandit

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