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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com, eperezma@redhat.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux.dev, hch@infradead.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 7/9] vdpa: rename dma_dev to map_token
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 10:01:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250722100106-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEue4Wh3ocM2Pmn5E_nMzjHkJqd-MhYbPDY9pXdwMtqgXQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 06:09:35PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 5:37 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 05:16:14PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > Virtio core switches from DMA device to mapping token, let's do that
> > > as well for vDPA.
> >
> > Pls switch to imperative mood.
> >
> > And add explanation about what is going on and why please.
> 
> I think this has been explained in patch [PATCH V4 6/9] virtio:
> introduce map ops in virtio core?
> 
> """
> For the device or transport that doesn't do DMA,
> they can implement their own mapping logic without the need to trick
> DMA core. In this case the map_token is opaque to the virtio core that
> will be passed back to the transport or device specific map
> operations. For other devices, DMA API will still be used, so map
> token will still be the dma device to minimize the changeset and
> performance impact.
> """
> 
> >
> > At least, document what are the actual types stored here.
> 
> It is opaque to the virtio core and will be used as a token to be
> passed back when the virtio core wants to map/unmap a buffer. So it
> doesn't have a type.
> 
> > I checked and it looks like vduse actually returns struct device * here, too?
> 
> It's just a token, vduse can return anything that can be used to
> identify an iova domain. For example, it can return a pointer to
> iova_domain which will also work. If you prefer to use iova domain, I
> can change to use that in the next version.
> 
> > So why do we need this, why lose all type safety?
> 
> If you worry about the case that assumes map_token as dma device in
> virtio core. I can keep both map_token and dma_device and make the
> mutually exclusive, then:
> 
> - when transport reports dma device, use DMA API
> - when transport reports map token, use map ops
> 
> Does this work for you?
> 
> Thanks

Sounds fine, to me.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-22 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-18  9:16 [PATCH V4 0/9] Refine virtio mapping API Jason Wang
2025-07-18  9:16 ` [PATCH V4 1/9] virtio_ring: constify virtqueue pointer for DMA helpers Jason Wang
2025-07-18  9:27   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-18  9:28     ` Jason Wang
2025-07-18  9:39       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-25  9:00   ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-07-28 10:44   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-07-18  9:16 ` [PATCH V4 2/9] virtio_ring: switch to use dma_{map|unmap}_page() Jason Wang
2025-07-25  9:09   ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-07-28  3:25     ` Jason Wang
2025-07-18  9:16 ` [PATCH V4 3/9] virtio: rename dma helpers Jason Wang
2025-07-25  9:10   ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-07-18  9:16 ` [PATCH V4 4/9] virtio: rename dma_dev to map_token Jason Wang
2025-07-18  9:16 ` [PATCH V4 5/9] virtio_ring: rename dma_handle to map_handle Jason Wang
2025-07-25  9:11   ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-07-18  9:16 ` [PATCH V4 6/9] virtio: introduce map ops in virtio core Jason Wang
2025-07-25  9:13   ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-07-28  3:28     ` Jason Wang
2025-07-18  9:16 ` [PATCH V4 7/9] vdpa: rename dma_dev to map_token Jason Wang
2025-07-18  9:24   ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-07-18  9:37   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-18 10:09     ` Jason Wang
2025-07-21  8:05       ` Jason Wang
2025-07-22 17:26         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-23  5:54           ` Jason Wang
2025-07-23  6:29             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-22 14:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-07-22 14:02       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-18  9:16 ` [PATCH V4 8/9] vdpa: introduce map ops Jason Wang
2025-07-18  9:16 ` [PATCH V4 9/9] vduse: switch to use virtio map API instead of DMA API Jason Wang
2025-07-18  9:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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