From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com, eperezma@redhat.com,
virtualization@lists.linux.dev, hch@infradead.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 7/9] vdpa: rename dma_dev to map_token
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 02:29:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250723021457-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEt+mLO9xL3LaJE7XJV_-YiUVeJgSm3oWAhDmmvwhfwXfA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 01:54:37PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 1:26 AM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 04:05:17PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 6:09 PM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 5:37 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 05:16:14PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > > Virtio core switches from DMA device to mapping token, let's do that
> > > > > > as well for vDPA.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pls switch to imperative mood.
> > > > >
> > > > > And add explanation about what is going on and why please.
> > > >
> > > > I think this has been explained in patch [PATCH V4 6/9] virtio:
> > > > introduce map ops in virtio core?
> > > >
> > > > """
> > > > For the device or transport that doesn't do DMA,
> > > > they can implement their own mapping logic without the need to trick
> > > > DMA core. In this case the map_token is opaque to the virtio core that
> > > > will be passed back to the transport or device specific map
> > > > operations. For other devices, DMA API will still be used, so map
> > > > token will still be the dma device to minimize the changeset and
> > > > performance impact.
> > > > """
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At least, document what are the actual types stored here.
> > > >
> > > > It is opaque to the virtio core and will be used as a token to be
> > > > passed back when the virtio core wants to map/unmap a buffer. So it
> > > > doesn't have a type.
> > > >
> > > > > I checked and it looks like vduse actually returns struct device * here, too?
> > > >
> > > > It's just a token, vduse can return anything that can be used to
> > > > identify an iova domain. For example, it can return a pointer to
> > > > iova_domain which will also work. If you prefer to use iova domain, I
> > > > can change to use that in the next version.
> > > >
> > > > > So why do we need this, why lose all type safety?
> > > >
> > > > If you worry about the case that assumes map_token as dma device in
> > > > virtio core. I can keep both map_token and dma_device and make the
> > > > mutually exclusive, then:
> > > >
> > > > - when transport reports dma device, use DMA API
> > > > - when transport reports map token, use map ops
> > > >
> > > > Does this work for you?
> > >
> > > This seems to result in a lot of unnecessary code. I wonder if the
> > > following would work:
> > >
> > > Just document the requirement in vring_create_virtqueue_map, say
> > > something like when a virtio device doesn't have a map operation,
> > > map_token must be a pointer to struct device.
> > >
> > > Please give me some advice so I can work on a new version..
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> >
> >
> > How about something like this?
> >
> > typedef union {
> > struct device *dma_dev;
> > struct vduse_iova_domain *iova_domain;
> > void *ptr;
> > } virtio_dma_dev_t;
> >
> >
> >
> > Now, just pass this around.
> > You can also add an enum with the pointer:
> >
> > typedef struct {
> > union {
> > struct device *dma_dev;
> > struct vduse_iova_domain *iova_domain;
> > void *ptr;
> > };
> > enum {
> > VIRTIO_DMA,
> > VIRTIO_IOVA
> > } type;
> > } virtio_dma_dev_t;
> >
> > (possibly only on debug builds, if you find it's costly?)
>
> I've considered something like this, but it looks more like trying to
> hard-code the runtime type information which I'm not sure we really
> need.
> Assuming the token or DMA device won't be changed after the probe. Let
> the transport to report one of the dma_dev or mapping_token should be
> sufficient.
you mean the enum? Not strictly necessary - more of a defence in depth
thing.
>
> Let me try and see.
>
> Thanks
>
> >
> > This allows encapsulation and asserts that the type is right.
> >
> >
> > --
> > MST
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-23 6:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-18 9:16 [PATCH V4 0/9] Refine virtio mapping API Jason Wang
2025-07-18 9:16 ` [PATCH V4 1/9] virtio_ring: constify virtqueue pointer for DMA helpers Jason Wang
2025-07-18 9:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-18 9:28 ` Jason Wang
2025-07-18 9:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-25 9:00 ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-07-28 10:44 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-07-18 9:16 ` [PATCH V4 2/9] virtio_ring: switch to use dma_{map|unmap}_page() Jason Wang
2025-07-25 9:09 ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-07-28 3:25 ` Jason Wang
2025-07-18 9:16 ` [PATCH V4 3/9] virtio: rename dma helpers Jason Wang
2025-07-25 9:10 ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-07-18 9:16 ` [PATCH V4 4/9] virtio: rename dma_dev to map_token Jason Wang
2025-07-18 9:16 ` [PATCH V4 5/9] virtio_ring: rename dma_handle to map_handle Jason Wang
2025-07-25 9:11 ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-07-18 9:16 ` [PATCH V4 6/9] virtio: introduce map ops in virtio core Jason Wang
2025-07-25 9:13 ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-07-28 3:28 ` Jason Wang
2025-07-18 9:16 ` [PATCH V4 7/9] vdpa: rename dma_dev to map_token Jason Wang
2025-07-18 9:24 ` Zhu Lingshan
2025-07-18 9:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-18 10:09 ` Jason Wang
2025-07-21 8:05 ` Jason Wang
2025-07-22 17:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-23 5:54 ` Jason Wang
2025-07-23 6:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-07-22 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-22 14:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-07-18 9:16 ` [PATCH V4 8/9] vdpa: introduce map ops Jason Wang
2025-07-18 9:16 ` [PATCH V4 9/9] vduse: switch to use virtio map API instead of DMA API Jason Wang
2025-07-18 9:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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