From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: eperezma@redhat.com, jonah.palmer@oracle.com, kuba@kernel.org,
jon@nutanix.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux.dev, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 2/2] vhost-net: correctly flush batched packet before enabling notification
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:39:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250916053418-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEt2fAkCb_nC4QwR+3Jq+fS8=7bx=T3AEzPP1KGLErbSBA@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 03:20:36PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 3:08 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 02:24:22PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 1:19 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 10:37:35AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 12:03 AM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 04:26:58PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > > > Commit 8c2e6b26ffe2 ("vhost/net: Defer TX queue re-enable until after
> > > > > > > sendmsg") tries to defer the notification enabling by moving the logic
> > > > > > > out of the loop after the vhost_tx_batch() when nothing new is
> > > > > > > spotted. This will bring side effects as the new logic would be reused
> > > > > > > for several other error conditions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One example is the IOTLB: when there's an IOTLB miss, get_tx_bufs()
> > > > > > > might return -EAGAIN and exit the loop and see there's still available
> > > > > > > buffers, so it will queue the tx work again until userspace feed the
> > > > > > > IOTLB entry correctly. This will slowdown the tx processing and may
> > > > > > > trigger the TX watchdog in the guest.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fixing this by stick the notificaiton enabling logic inside the loop
> > > > > > > when nothing new is spotted and flush the batched before.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Reported-by: Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com>
> > > > > > > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > > > > > > Fixes: 8c2e6b26ffe2 ("vhost/net: Defer TX queue re-enable until after sendmsg")
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > drivers/vhost/net.c | 33 +++++++++++++--------------------
> > > > > > > 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/vhost/net.c b/drivers/vhost/net.c
> > > > > > > index 16e39f3ab956..3611b7537932 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/drivers/vhost/net.c
> > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/vhost/net.c
> > > > > > > @@ -765,11 +765,11 @@ static void handle_tx_copy(struct vhost_net *net, struct socket *sock)
> > > > > > > int err;
> > > > > > > int sent_pkts = 0;
> > > > > > > bool sock_can_batch = (sock->sk->sk_sndbuf == INT_MAX);
> > > > > > > - bool busyloop_intr;
> > > > > > > bool in_order = vhost_has_feature(vq, VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER);
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > do {
> > > > > > > - busyloop_intr = false;
> > > > > > > + bool busyloop_intr = false;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > if (nvq->done_idx == VHOST_NET_BATCH)
> > > > > > > vhost_tx_batch(net, nvq, sock, &msg);
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > @@ -780,10 +780,18 @@ static void handle_tx_copy(struct vhost_net *net, struct socket *sock)
> > > > > > > break;
> > > > > > > /* Nothing new? Wait for eventfd to tell us they refilled. */
> > > > > > > if (head == vq->num) {
> > > > > > > - /* Kicks are disabled at this point, break loop and
> > > > > > > - * process any remaining batched packets. Queue will
> > > > > > > - * be re-enabled afterwards.
> > > > > > > + /* Flush batched packets before enabling
> > > > > > > + * virqtueue notification to reduce
> > > > > > > + * unnecssary virtqueue kicks.
> > > > > > > */
> > > > > > > + vhost_tx_batch(net, nvq, sock, &msg);
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So why don't we do this in the "else" branch"? If we are busy polling
> > > > > > then we are not enabling kicks, so is there a reason to flush?
> > > > >
> > > > > It should be functional equivalent:
> > > > >
> > > > > do {
> > > > > if (head == vq->num) {
> > > > > vhost_tx_batch();
> > > > > if (unlikely(busyloop_intr)) {
> > > > > vhost_poll_queue()
> > > > > } else if () {
> > > > > vhost_disable_notify(&net->dev, vq);
> > > > > continue;
> > > > > }
> > > > > return;
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > vs
> > > > >
> > > > > do {
> > > > > if (head == vq->num) {
> > > > > if (unlikely(busyloop_intr)) {
> > > > > vhost_poll_queue()
> > > > > } else if () {
> > > > > vhost_tx_batch();
> > > > > vhost_disable_notify(&net->dev, vq);
> > > > > continue;
> > > > > }
> > > > > break;
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > vhost_tx_batch();
> > > > > return;
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > But this is not what the code comment says:
> > > >
> > > > /* Flush batched packets before enabling
> > > > * virqtueue notification to reduce
> > > > * unnecssary virtqueue kicks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So I ask - of we queued more polling, why do we need
> > > > to flush batched packets? We might get more in the next
> > > > polling round, this is what polling is designed to do.
> > >
> > > The reason is there could be a rx work when busyloop_intr is true, so
> > > we need to flush.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > Then you need to update the comment to explain.
> > Want to post your version of this patchset?
>
> I'm fine if you wish. Just want to make sure, do you prefer a patch
> for your vhost tree or net?
>
> For net, I would stick to 2 patches as if we go for 3, the last patch
> that brings back flush looks more like an optimization.
Jason it does not matter how it looks. We do not need to sneak in
features - if the right thing is to add patch 3 in net then
it is, just add an explanation why in the cover letter.
And if it is not then it is not and squashing it with a revert
is not a good idea.
> For vhost, I can go with 3 patches, but I see that your series has been queued.
>
> And the build of the current vhost tree is broken by:
>
> commit 41bafbdcd27bf5ce8cd866a9b68daeb28f3ef12b (HEAD)
> Author: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> Date: Mon Sep 15 10:47:03 2025 +0800
>
> vhost-net: flush batched before enabling notifications
>
> It looks like it misses a brace.
>
> Thanks
Ugh forgot to commit :(
I guess this is what happens when one tries to code past midnight.
Dropped now pls do proceed.
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > + if (unlikely(busyloop_intr)) {
> > > > > > > + vhost_poll_queue(&vq->poll);
> > > > > > > + } else if (unlikely(vhost_enable_notify(&net->dev,
> > > > > > > + vq))) {
> > > > > > > + vhost_disable_notify(&net->dev, vq);
> > > > > > > + continue;
> > > > > > > + }
> > > > > > > break;
> > > > > > > }
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > @@ -839,22 +847,7 @@ static void handle_tx_copy(struct vhost_net *net, struct socket *sock)
> > > > > > > ++nvq->done_idx;
> > > > > > > } while (likely(!vhost_exceeds_weight(vq, ++sent_pkts, total_len)));
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - /* Kicks are still disabled, dispatch any remaining batched msgs. */
> > > > > > > vhost_tx_batch(net, nvq, sock, &msg);
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > - if (unlikely(busyloop_intr))
> > > > > > > - /* If interrupted while doing busy polling, requeue the
> > > > > > > - * handler to be fair handle_rx as well as other tasks
> > > > > > > - * waiting on cpu.
> > > > > > > - */
> > > > > > > - vhost_poll_queue(&vq->poll);
> > > > > > > - else
> > > > > > > - /* All of our work has been completed; however, before
> > > > > > > - * leaving the TX handler, do one last check for work,
> > > > > > > - * and requeue handler if necessary. If there is no work,
> > > > > > > - * queue will be reenabled.
> > > > > > > - */
> > > > > > > - vhost_net_busy_poll_try_queue(net, vq);
> > > > > > > }
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > static void handle_tx_zerocopy(struct vhost_net *net, struct socket *sock)
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > 2.34.1
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-16 9:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-12 8:26 [PATCH net 1/2] vhost-net: unbreak busy polling Jason Wang
2025-09-12 8:26 ` [PATCH net 2/2] vhost-net: correctly flush batched packet before enabling notification Jason Wang
2025-09-12 8:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-12 15:24 ` Jon Kohler
2025-09-12 15:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-12 15:33 ` Jon Kohler
2025-09-12 15:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-12 15:40 ` Jon Kohler
2025-09-15 16:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-16 2:37 ` Jason Wang
2025-09-16 5:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-16 6:24 ` Jason Wang
2025-09-16 7:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-16 7:20 ` Jason Wang
2025-09-16 9:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-09-12 8:51 ` [PATCH net 1/2] vhost-net: unbreak busy polling Michael S. Tsirkin
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