From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>,
Maxime Coquelin <mcoqueli@redhat.com>,
Yongji Xie <xieyongji@bytedance.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
Dragos Tatulea DE <dtatulea@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] virtio_net: timeout control virtqueue commands
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 02:22:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251016022131-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEtXWLicmszjkzOhX8Ta=LdGgsDahRUKDEVzBVG8am5vgg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 02:03:57PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 1:45 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 01:39:58PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Not exactly bufferize, record. E.g. we do not need to send
> > > > > 100 messages to enable/disable promisc mode - together they
> > > > > have no effect.
> > >
> > > Note that there's a case that multiple commands need to be sent, e.g
> > > set rx mode. And assuming not all the commands are the best effort,
> > > kernel VDUSE still needs to wait for the usersapce at least for a
> > > while.
> >
> > Not wait, record. Generate 1st command, after userspace consumed it -
> > generate and send second command and so on.
>
> Right, that's what I asked in another thread, we still need a timeout
> here.
we do not need a timeout.
> Then I think it would not be too much difference whether it is
> VDUSE or CVQ that will fail or break the device. Conceptually, VDUSE
> can only advertise NEEDS_RESET since it's a device implementation.
> VDUSE can not simply break the device as it requires synchronization
> which is not easy.
>
> > But for each bit of data, at most one command has to be sent,
> > we do not care if guest tweaked rx mode 3 times, we only care about
> > the latest state.
>
> Yes, but I want to know what's best when VDUSE meets userspace timeout.
>
> Thanks
userspace should manage its own timeouts.
> >
> > --
> > MST
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-16 6:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-07 13:06 [RFC 0/2] Lift restriction about VDUSE net devices with CVQ Eugenio Pérez
2025-10-07 13:06 ` [RFC 1/2] virtio_net: timeout control virtqueue commands Eugenio Pérez
2025-10-11 7:44 ` Jason Wang
2025-10-14 7:30 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-14 8:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-14 9:14 ` Maxime Coquelin
2025-10-14 9:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-14 10:21 ` Maxime Coquelin
2025-10-15 4:44 ` Jason Wang
2025-10-15 6:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-15 6:08 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-15 6:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-15 6:52 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-15 7:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-15 7:45 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-15 8:03 ` Maxime Coquelin
2025-10-15 8:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-15 9:16 ` Maxime Coquelin
2025-10-15 10:36 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-16 5:39 ` Jason Wang
2025-10-16 5:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-16 6:03 ` Jason Wang
2025-10-16 6:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-10-16 6:25 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-17 6:36 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-17 6:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-17 7:21 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-22 9:46 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-22 10:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-22 10:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-22 10:50 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-22 11:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-22 12:55 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-28 14:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-28 14:37 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-28 14:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-28 14:57 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-29 0:36 ` Jason Wang
2025-11-05 9:02 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-11-09 21:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-07 13:06 ` [RFC 2/2] vduse: lift restriction about net devices with CVQ Eugenio Pérez
2025-10-09 13:14 ` Maxime Coquelin
2025-10-15 6:11 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-14 8:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-15 6:25 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
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