From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>
Cc: Maxime Coquelin <mcoqueli@redhat.com>,
Yongji Xie <xieyongji@bytedance.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
Dragos Tatulea DE <dtatulea@nvidia.com>,
jasowang@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] virtio_net: timeout control virtqueue commands
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 10:09:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251028100923-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJaqyWeDcyKKOvVdqUkpTuH3d-Tb9rBHG3ym+LC0fcmhrN_FJA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 02:55:18PM +0200, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 1:43 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 12:50:53PM +0200, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> > > Let me switch to MQ as I think it illustrates the point better.
> > >
> > > IIUC the workflow:
> > > a) virtio-net sends MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET 2 to the device
> > > b) VDUSE CVQ sends ok to the virtio-net driver
> > > c) VDUSE CVQ sends the command to the VDUSE device
> > > d) Now the virtio-net driver sends virtio-net sends MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET 1
> > > e) VDUSE CVQ sends ok to the virtio-net driver
> > >
> > > The device didn't process the MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET 1 command at this point,
> > > so it potentially uses the second rx queue. But, by the standard:
> > >
> > > The device MUST NOT queue packets on receive queues greater than
> > > virtqueue_pairs once it has placed the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET
> > > command in a used buffer.
> > >
> > > So the driver does not expect rx buffers on that queue at all. From
> > > the driver's POV, the device is invalid, and it could mark it as
> > > broken.
> >
> > ok intresting. Note that if userspace processes vqs it should process
> > cvq too. I don't know what to do in this case yet, I'm going on
> > vacation, let me ponder this a bit.
> >
>
> Sure.
So let me ask you this, how are you going to handle device reset?
Same issue, it seems to me.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-28 14:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-07 13:06 [RFC 0/2] Lift restriction about VDUSE net devices with CVQ Eugenio Pérez
2025-10-07 13:06 ` [RFC 1/2] virtio_net: timeout control virtqueue commands Eugenio Pérez
2025-10-11 7:44 ` Jason Wang
2025-10-14 7:30 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-14 8:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-14 9:14 ` Maxime Coquelin
2025-10-14 9:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-14 10:21 ` Maxime Coquelin
2025-10-15 4:44 ` Jason Wang
2025-10-15 6:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-15 6:08 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-15 6:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-15 6:52 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-15 7:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-15 7:45 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-15 8:03 ` Maxime Coquelin
2025-10-15 8:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-15 9:16 ` Maxime Coquelin
2025-10-15 10:36 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-16 5:39 ` Jason Wang
2025-10-16 5:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-16 6:03 ` Jason Wang
2025-10-16 6:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-16 6:25 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-17 6:36 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-17 6:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-17 7:21 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-22 9:46 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-22 10:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-22 10:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-22 10:50 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-22 11:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-22 12:55 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-28 14:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-10-28 14:37 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-28 14:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-28 14:57 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-29 0:36 ` Jason Wang
2025-11-05 9:02 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-11-09 21:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-07 13:06 ` [RFC 2/2] vduse: lift restriction about net devices with CVQ Eugenio Pérez
2025-10-09 13:14 ` Maxime Coquelin
2025-10-15 6:11 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-10-14 8:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-15 6:25 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
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