From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: "Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/7] vfio: Wait for dma-buf invalidation to complete
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 10:11:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260123141140.GC1589888@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260122234404.GB1589888@ziepe.ca>
On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 07:44:04PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 12:32:03PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
> > >> What roughly happens is that each DMA-buf mapping through a couple
> > >> of hoops keeps a reference on the device, so even after a hotplug
> > >> event the device can only fully go away after all housekeeping
> > >> structures are destroyed and buffers freed.
> > >
> > > A simple reference on the device means nothing for these kinds of
> > > questions. It does not stop unloading and reloading a driver.
> >
> > Well as far as I know it stops the PCIe address space from being re-used.
> >
> > So when you do an "echo 1 > remove" and then an re-scan on the
> > upstream bridge that works, but you get different addresses for your
> > MMIO BARs!
>
> That's pretty a niche scenario.. Most people don't rescan their PCI
> bus. If you just do rmmod/insmod then it will be re-used, there is no
> rescan to move the MMIO around on that case.
Ah I just remembered there is another important detail here.
It is illegal to call the DMA API after your driver is unprobed. The
kernel can oops. So if a driver is allowing remove() to complete
before all the dma_buf_unmaps have been called it is buggy and risks
an oops.
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/8067f204-1380-4d37-8ffd-007fc6f26738@kernel.org/T/#m0c7dda0fb5981240879c5ca489176987d688844c
As calling a dma_buf_unmap() -> dma_unma_sg() after remove() returns
is not allowed..
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-23 14:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-20 14:07 [PATCH v3 0/7] dma-buf: Use revoke mechanism to invalidate shared buffers Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] dma-buf: Rename .move_notify() callback to a clearer identifier Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 8:33 ` Christian König
2026-01-21 8:41 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] dma-buf: Always build with DMABUF_MOVE_NOTIFY Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 8:55 ` Christian König
2026-01-21 10:14 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 10:57 ` Christian König
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] dma-buf: Document RDMA non-ODP invalidate_mapping() special case Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 8:59 ` Christian König
2026-01-21 9:14 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 9:17 ` Christian König
2026-01-21 13:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-21 13:52 ` Christian König
2026-01-21 13:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-21 14:15 ` Christian König
2026-01-21 14:31 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 15:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] dma-buf: Add check function for revoke semantics Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] iommufd: Pin dma-buf importer " Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 9:01 ` Christian König
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] vfio: Wait for dma-buf invalidation to complete Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-20 20:44 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-21 7:59 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 10:41 ` Christian König
2026-01-21 10:44 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 17:18 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-21 9:20 ` Christian König
2026-01-21 9:36 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-21 10:55 ` Christian König
2026-01-21 13:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-21 15:28 ` Christian König
2026-01-21 16:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-21 19:45 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-22 11:32 ` Christian König
2026-01-22 23:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-23 14:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-23 16:23 ` Christian König
2026-01-23 16:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] vfio: Validate dma-buf revocation semantics Leon Romanovsky
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