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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: "Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Dmitry Osipenko" <dmitry.osipenko@collabora.com>,
	"Gurchetan Singh" <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>,
	"Chia-I Wu" <olvaffe@gmail.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Lucas De Marchi" <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rodrigo Vivi" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/7] vfio: Wait for dma-buf invalidation to complete
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 12:31:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260123163132.GA1641016@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98b74c7a-44c1-49ba-997b-bbbab60429ba@amd.com>

On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 05:23:34PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
> > It is illegal to call the DMA API after your driver is unprobed. The
> > kernel can oops. So if a driver is allowing remove() to complete
> > before all the dma_buf_unmaps have been called it is buggy and risks
> > an oops.
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/8067f204-1380-4d37-8ffd-007fc6f26738@kernel.org/T/#m0c7dda0fb5981240879c5ca489176987d688844c
> > 
> > As calling a dma_buf_unmap() -> dma_unma_sg() after remove() returns
> > is not allowed..
> 
> That is not even in the hands of the driver. The DMA-buf framework
> itself does a module_get() on the exporter.

module_get() prevents the module from being unloaded. It does not
prevent the user from using /sys/../unbind or various other ways to
remove the driver from the device.

rmmod is a popular way to trigger remove() on a driver but not the
only way, and you can't point to a module_get() to dismiss issues with
driver remove() correctness.

> Revoking the DMA mappings won't change anything on that, the
> importer needs to stop using the DMA-buf and drop all their
> references.

And to be correct an exporting driver needs to wait in its remove
function until all the unmaps are done.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-23 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-20 14:07 [PATCH v3 0/7] dma-buf: Use revoke mechanism to invalidate shared buffers Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] dma-buf: Rename .move_notify() callback to a clearer identifier Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21  8:33   ` Christian König
2026-01-21  8:41     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] dma-buf: Always build with DMABUF_MOVE_NOTIFY Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21  8:55   ` Christian König
2026-01-21 10:14     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 10:57       ` Christian König
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] dma-buf: Document RDMA non-ODP invalidate_mapping() special case Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21  8:59   ` Christian König
2026-01-21  9:14     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21  9:17       ` Christian König
2026-01-21 13:18         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-21 13:52           ` Christian König
2026-01-21 13:59             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-21 14:15               ` Christian König
2026-01-21 14:31                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 15:39                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] dma-buf: Add check function for revoke semantics Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] iommufd: Pin dma-buf importer " Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21  9:01   ` Christian König
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] vfio: Wait for dma-buf invalidation to complete Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-20 20:44   ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-21  7:59     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 10:41     ` Christian König
2026-01-21 10:44       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-21 17:18         ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-21  9:20   ` Christian König
2026-01-21  9:36     ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-21 10:55       ` Christian König
2026-01-21 13:31     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-21 15:28       ` Christian König
2026-01-21 16:01         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-21 19:45           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-22 11:32           ` Christian König
2026-01-22 23:44             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-23 14:11               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-23 16:23                 ` Christian König
2026-01-23 16:31                   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-20 14:07 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] vfio: Validate dma-buf revocation semantics Leon Romanovsky

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