From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>
Cc: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
Bryan Tan <bryan-bt.tan@broadcom.com>,
Vishnu Dasa <vishnu.dasa@broadcom.com>,
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Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] vsock: Enable H2G override
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2026 14:52:28 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260302145121-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17d63837-6028-475a-90df-6966329a0fc2@amazon.com>
On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 04:48:33PM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
> On 02.03.26 13:06, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > CCing Bryan, Vishnu, and Broadcom list.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 12:47:05PM +0100, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > >
> > > Please target net-next tree for this new feature.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 10:41:38AM +0000, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > > > Vsock maintains a single CID number space which can be used to
> > > > communicate to the host (G2H) or to a child-VM (H2G). The current logic
> > > > trivially assumes that G2H is only relevant for CID <= 2 because these
> > > > target the hypervisor. However, in environments like Nitro
> > > > Enclaves, an
> > > > instance that hosts vhost_vsock powered VMs may still want to
> > > > communicate
> > > > to Enclaves that are reachable at higher CIDs through virtio-vsock-pci.
> > > >
> > > > That means that for CID > 2, we really want an overlay. By default, all
> > > > CIDs are owned by the hypervisor. But if vhost registers a CID,
> > > > it takes
> > > > precedence. Implement that logic. Vhost already knows which CIDs it
> > > > supports anyway.
> > > >
> > > > With this logic, I can run a Nitro Enclave as well as a nested VM with
> > > > vhost-vsock support in parallel, with the parent instance able to
> > > > communicate to both simultaneously.
> > >
> > > I honestly don't understand why VMADDR_FLAG_TO_HOST (added
> > > specifically for Nitro IIRC) isn't enough for this scenario and we
> > > have to add this change. Can you elaborate a bit more about the
> > > relationship between this change and VMADDR_FLAG_TO_HOST we added?
>
>
> The main problem I have with VMADDR_FLAG_TO_HOST for connect() is that it
> punts the complexity to the user. Instead of a single CID address space, you
> now effectively create 2 spaces: One for TO_HOST (needs a flag) and one for
> TO_GUEST (no flag). But every user space tool needs to learn about this
> flag. That may work for super special-case applications. But propagating
> that all the way into socat, iperf, etc etc? It's just creating friction.
>
> IMHO the most natural experience is to have a single CID space, potentially
> manually segmented by launching VMs of one kind within a certain range.
>
> At the end of the day, the host vs guest problem is super similar to a
> routing table.
If this is what's desired, some bits could be stolen from the CID
to specify the destination type. Would that address the issue?
Just a thought.
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > drivers/vhost/vsock.c | 11 +++++++++++
> > > > include/net/af_vsock.h | 3 +++
> > > > net/vmw_vsock/af_vsock.c | 3 +++
> > > > 3 files changed, 17 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/vhost/vsock.c b/drivers/vhost/vsock.c
> > > > index 054f7a718f50..223da817e305 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/vhost/vsock.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/vhost/vsock.c
> > > > @@ -91,6 +91,16 @@ static struct vhost_vsock
> > > > *vhost_vsock_get(u32 guest_cid, struct net *net)
> > > > return NULL;
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > +static bool vhost_transport_has_cid(u32 cid)
> > > > +{
> > > > + bool found;
> > > > +
> > > > + rcu_read_lock();
> > > > + found = vhost_vsock_get(cid) != NULL;
> > >
> > > We recently added namespaces support that changed vhost_vsock_get()
> > > params. This is also in net tree now and in Linus' tree, so not sure
> > > where this patch is based, but this needs to be rebased since it is
> > > not building:
> > >
> > > ../drivers/vhost/vsock.c: In function ‘vhost_transport_has_cid’:
> > > ../drivers/vhost/vsock.c:99:17: error: too few arguments to function
> > > ‘vhost_vsock_get’; expected 2, have 1
> > > 99 | found = vhost_vsock_get(cid) != NULL;
> > > | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > ../drivers/vhost/vsock.c:74:28: note: declared here
> > > 74 | static struct vhost_vsock *vhost_vsock_get(u32 guest_cid,
> > > struct net *net)
> > > |
>
>
> D'oh. Sorry, I built this on 6.19 and only realized after the send that
> namespace support got in. Will fix up for v2.
>
>
> > >
> > > > + rcu_read_unlock();
> > > > + return found;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > static void
> > > > vhost_transport_do_send_pkt(struct vhost_vsock *vsock,
> > > > struct vhost_virtqueue *vq)
> > > > @@ -424,6 +434,7 @@ static struct virtio_transport vhost_transport = {
> > > > .module = THIS_MODULE,
> > > >
> > > > .get_local_cid = vhost_transport_get_local_cid,
> > > > + .has_cid = vhost_transport_has_cid,
> > > >
> > > > .init = virtio_transport_do_socket_init,
> > > > .destruct = virtio_transport_destruct,
> > > > diff --git a/include/net/af_vsock.h b/include/net/af_vsock.h
> > > > index 533d8e75f7bb..4cdcb72f9765 100644
> > > > --- a/include/net/af_vsock.h
> > > > +++ b/include/net/af_vsock.h
> > > > @@ -179,6 +179,9 @@ struct vsock_transport {
> > > > /* Addressing. */
> > > > u32 (*get_local_cid)(void);
> > > >
> > > > + /* Check if this transport serves a specific remote CID. */
> > > > + bool (*has_cid)(u32 cid);
> > >
> > > What about "has_remote_cid" ?
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > /* Read a single skb */
> > > > int (*read_skb)(struct vsock_sock *, skb_read_actor_t);
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/net/vmw_vsock/af_vsock.c b/net/vmw_vsock/af_vsock.c
> > > > index 2f7d94d682cb..8b34b264b246 100644
> > > > --- a/net/vmw_vsock/af_vsock.c
> > > > +++ b/net/vmw_vsock/af_vsock.c
> > > > @@ -584,6 +584,9 @@ int vsock_assign_transport(struct vsock_sock
> > > > *vsk, struct vsock_sock *psk)
> > > > else if (remote_cid <= VMADDR_CID_HOST || !transport_h2g ||
> > > > (remote_flags & VMADDR_FLAG_TO_HOST))
> > > > new_transport = transport_g2h;
> > > > + else if (transport_h2g->has_cid &&
> > > > + !transport_h2g->has_cid(remote_cid))
> > > > + new_transport = transport_g2h;
> > >
> > > We should update the comment on top of this fuction, and maybe also
> > > try to support the other H2G transport (i.e. VMCI).
> > >
> > > @Bryan @Vishnu can the new has_cid()/has_remote_cid() be supported
> > > by VMCI too?
> >
> > Oops, I forgot to CC them, now they should be in copy.
>
>
> Ack. I can also take a quick look if it's trivial to add.
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-02 19:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-02 10:41 [PATCH] vsock: Enable H2G override Alexander Graf
2026-03-02 11:47 ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-03-02 12:06 ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-03-02 15:48 ` Alexander Graf
2026-03-02 16:25 ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-03-02 19:04 ` Alexander Graf
2026-03-03 9:49 ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-03-03 14:17 ` Bryan Tan
2026-03-03 20:47 ` Alexander Graf
2026-03-03 20:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-03-03 21:05 ` Alexander Graf
2026-03-02 19:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-03-03 6:51 ` Alexander Graf
2026-03-03 7:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-03-03 9:57 ` Stefano Garzarella
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